Damn silly move by M$, no HDD as standard is going to cripple content produced. Shoehorning games into physical RAM requirement with (the assumption of) no ability to stream or cache data has already meant loads of game for the current consoles are crippled. Now they do the same for the next -gen stuff, unbelievable. In the current XBOX including a HDD as standard was one of the best things M$ did (even if it isnt always used as they evisaged). This is going to mean PC games which are going to have a console release are going to suffer from more consolitous (the removal of features and general over simplification of game) than before. Bad, bad move, I expected more from M$, but not more cr*p.