Woot! 811 / 411 Success stories!

Since everyone has been predominantly posting bad scans for bad discs, can we get some piccies and disc info for success stories on 411 and 811 drives?

The following id’s as:

Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:RICOHJPN-R01-002]

Disc Type : [DVD+R]
Manufacturer ID : [RICOHJPN]
Media Type ID : [R01]
Product Revision : [002]
Disc Application Code : [General Purpose]
Recording Speeds : [2.4x - 4x]

These are labelled as “RiData” and sold in spindles of 25 ( in Australia, syndey region)

How about a scan with real 8x media, i did one on my 401s@811s

Nero 6.3.0.3
burn speed 8x

verbatim Datalifeplus 1x-8x id= mcc-003

1X-8X DVD recording speed
Compatible with new 8X DVD+R drives from HP, Dell, Plextor and others
Metal Azo recording dye optimizes read/write performance
Superior Archival Life

or this one

nero 6.3.0.3

memorex dvd+r 1x-4x id=ricohjpn-R01

Burn speed 8x

That’s an amazing scan there, you must be one of the lucky ones with a good 811 batch :smiley:

LDW-411S FW FS0F 4.37GB Movie

Media Information                            
Region information                                    N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID                                       RITEKG04
Format Capacity                                            4.37GB(4.69GB)
Free Blocks                                                             0
Book Type                                                           DVD-R
Media Type                                                          DVD-R
Media Id Code Speed                                         4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV  4.0x   5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV  2.0x   2770KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV  1.0x   1385KBps
Write Strategy Speed                                        4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta                                                      06
2x Speed OPC power                                                     0F
2x Write Strategy field 1                                     12 A8 88 80
2x Write Strategy field 2                               88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta                                                      05
4x Speed OPC power                                                     1B
4x Write Strategy field 1                                     0E 10 08 09
4x Write Strategy field 2                                     97 06 0D 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3                                     00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse                                          00
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse                                         08
4x Write Strategy field 4                                     00 00 10 01
4x Write Strategy field 5                               1D 00 00 00 1E 04
4x Write Strategy field 6                                  00 00 00 00 1F
Data area starting sector                                          30000h
Data area end sector                                              22F60Fh
Linear Density                                                0.267um/bit
Track Density                                                0.74um/track
Number of Layers                                                        1

00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 65 0E 0B .l...@....R..e..
00000010 FE FF 80 00 03 52 49 54 45 4B 47 00 04 30 34 00 .....RITEKG..04.
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 01 00 06 06 0F 12 ................

Burned at 4x Using RecordNow DX 4.6.

Note: As a general rule, from most posts I’ve read and from my personal experience the RitekG04’s like to be burned at 4x better than 2x.

Sold as Ritek 4.7GB RiData whitetop 4X DVD-R, manufactured by Ritek.
Scanned at 4X CLV in a LDW-411S FW FS0F, PI/PO sum set to 8ECC.


Burnt on a Lite-ON LDW-411S@811S VII, HS0E
4.38GB Movie.

Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO 
Media code/Manufacturer ID RICOHJPNW11 
Format Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB) 
Free Blocks 0 
Book Type DVD+RW 
Media Type DVD+RW 
Media Id Code Speed 4.0x 5540KBps 
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps 
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps 
BG Format Status Suspended 
Data area starting sector 30000h 
Data area end sector 23053Fh 
Linear Density 0.267um/bit 
Track Density 0.74um/track 
Number of Layers 1 

Complete Media Code 
00000000 08 02 00 00 92 0F 04 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F .............&.? 
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 52 49 43 4F 48 4A 50 4E 57 .......RICOHJPNW 
00000020 31 31 01 39 23 00 8A 86 68 02 26 00 8A 86 70 02 11.9#...h.&...p. 
00000030 28 00 8A 86 6A 02 28 22 12 10 E0 00 F0 00 00 00 (...j.("........

Sold as Sony DVD+RW 1x-4x compatible ‘Made in Taiwan’ at Walmart in Canada.

Scanned on a Lite-ON LDW-411S@811S VII, HS0E
Burnt at 4x scanned at 4x 8 ECC.


Rimmer66

my 401s mod with a v5-6 alpha-beta eeprom does well with HSOK on ricohjpn media, as you see above with the verbatim 8x at 8x it actaully did less well, the funny thing is that that same media on a pioneer 107d looks very good.

http://users.adelphia.net/~horselord/images/107D_1.10_DVD+R8x_REAL8x_MCC003.PNG

@ Ssseth

Your drive is a bit “premature”… [DATE!]

I just love your hacking… :smiley:


pinto2

its the timewarp factor its built into all lite-on drives, you know E=GammaMC^2

Gamma=1/(1-B^2)^(0.5)

B= (V/C)
M=mass of the drive
V=speed of the drive
C=speed of light

:bigsmile:

Originally posted by pinto2
[B]@ Ssseth

Your drive is a bit “premature”… [DATE!]

I just love your hacking… :smiley: [/B]

I don’t keep my old Kprobe scans. I used the ones from my posts in the DVD Media tests forums.
My results are still about the same as above with the same media so I thought, why bother doing it again? :smiley:

Originally posted by KenW
pinto2
its the timewarp factor its built into all lite-on drives, you know E=GammaMC^2
Gamma=1/(1-B^2)^(0.5)
B= (V/C)
M=mass of the drive
V=speed of the drive
C=speed of light
:bigsmile:

I thinks it´s more like this:
:iagree:


wow i think your right, it must be the lite-on fever kicking in.

I guess these results are strange but pretty good. right?

First scan is traxdata RICOHJPNR01.8#T7 burned on 2.4 speed and scanned on 4 speed, 8 ecc, ‘max’ not selected, LBA


traxdata RICOHJPNR01.8#T7 burned on 4 speed and scanned on 4 speed, 8 ecc, ‘max’ not selected, LBA


traxdata RICOHJPNR01.8#T7 burned on 8 speed and scanned on 4 speed, 8 ecc, ‘max’ not selected, LBA


Standard lite-on dvd+rw RICOHJPNW11.9 burned on 4 speed and scanned on 4 speed, 8 ecc, ‘max’ not selected, LBA


I think ill avoid burning on 4 speed for now and stick to 2.4 or 8 speed. :S

I was wondering how u define a PO and PI error. I can imagine that a dvd with a high PI (correctable error) errorrate and low PO (incorrectable error) errorrate could be better then the reverse. Because maybe a PO error consist of a combination/sum of PI errors, wich makes it incorrectable. So maybe this drive can read and write very accurate and correct the errors which gives high PI errors (but still readable and correctable) and therefore low PO errors.

PO errors:

burn +r 2.4 PO total: 232
burn +r 4 PO Total: 6654
burn +r 8 PO total: 329
burn +rw PO total: 1297

Isn’t this actually the best data to look at for determining your burning quality?

Media Information
Disc Regions are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Media code/Manufacturer ID PRODISC R01
Format Type UDF 1.02
Volume Name VIDEO_DVD
Application id ELBY CLONEDVD
Implementation id ELABORATE BYTES
Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy) 3/ 6/2004 11:38:41
Format Capacity 3.08GB(3.30GB)
Book Type DVD+R
Media Type DVD+R
Media Id Code Speed 2.4x 3324KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
Data area starting sector 30000h
Data area end sector 189FAFh
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

00000000 08 02 00 00 A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 1B 9F AF …
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 50 52 4F 44 49 53 43 00 52 …PRODISC.R
00000020 30 31 01 38 23 54 37 0F 02 54 6B 02 94 63 15 15 01.8Tk…c…
00000030 0B 0A 08 08 01 1C 1E 0B 0C 12 12 01 00 00 00 00 …
burnt this morning 811s>hsop 2.4x (datawrite dvd+r 2.4x) plays ok then near end freezes and jumps .


Originally posted by morpheusx
[B]I was wondering how u define a PO and PI error. I can imagine that a dvd with a high PI (correctable error) errorrate and low PO (incorrectable error) errorrate could be better then the reverse. Because maybe a PO error consist of a combination/sum of PI errors, wich makes it incorrectable. So maybe this drive can read and write very accurate and correct the errors which gives high PI errors (but still readable and correctable) and therefore low PO errors.

PO errors:

burn +r 2.4 PO total: 232
burn +r 4 PO Total: 6654
burn +r 8 PO total: 329
burn +rw PO total: 1297

Isn’t this actually the best data to look at for determining your burning quality? [/B]

Read the K-Probe thread … K-Probe does not display uncorrectable PO errors … a PO error according to ECMA is defined as uncorrectable if there are more than 4 PO errors in 1 ECC block … since we scan 8 ECC, you cannot be sure whether there has been an uncorrectable PO error or not if your PO values do not exceed 32 max @ 8 ECC …