I hate this shit - these damn companies develop new formats just to force consumers to install their stupid crappy players which phuck the entire system, contain spyware and whatever. think of the stupid slow spyware ridden quicktime and realone players. and think about MS enforcing the wmp on the endusers by developing its wmv/wma formats. And now the phucking nullsoft peoplez come and try to force me to install yet another phucked up player! as if I didn't have enough probs with quicktime/realone, which crash the system/IE and steal file associations from other players. Now yet another unstable factor is going to sneak into my system! No, thanks, you stupid phuckers, I don't give a goddamn shut about your winamp crap, never used it, and will never use it. WMP maybe not the best player in the world, but since it's installed anyway, I don't see any reason in installing yet another one, that can do exactly the same things. With all the DSP plugins that I installed into WMP it has become a really good player, and I am not going to install 1 mio winamp plugins in order to bring winamp to the same level as WMP on my computer with all its 3rd party plugins I installed. Anyway, that's not the point, 'cause even if winamp were better than other players, it's still outrageous how they try to force us to use it. Although, I guess if winamp were better, the team wouldn't try to force people to use it by developing some crappy new formats, codecs and I know not what else just to force us to install it, because CNN and other sites will then use these formats, just as CNN uses real format at the moment to force us to install the crappy realone player and to pay for a goldpass just to see some crappy badquality videos of Sharon threatening Arafat and vice versa. Phuck CNN, phuck Real, phuck Quicktime, and triple Phuck Winamp and its developers!