Why 1653S is slower than NEC 3500AG?

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#1

Hello guys
I’ve a LiteON 1633S@1653S with CS02 firmware modded by Omnipatcher and a Nec 3500AG with lastest Quikee V3 beta 3 firmware.

The trouble is that… the LiteON burn all DVDs at certified speed, for example a RICOHJPN R02 8x certified is burned at 8x if I try to modify the speed (by Omnipathcer) to 12x or 16, the resulting DVD is DAMAGED.

Also Nec with modded firmware automatically recognizes almost 8x DVDs+R at 16X. for example
RICOHJPN R02 8x --> 16x
MBIPG101 R03 4x --> 12x
MCC 003 8x --> 12x
And the DVDs where burn PERFECTLY without bad sectors etc.

I was a LiteOn’s fan before this day. :sad:

#2

Just because NEC can overspeed a burn doesn’t mean the LiteOn can do the same, or vice versa. Both uses different chipsets to do similar functions, and there are limitations, in hardware, softare, and/or firmware.

#3

Yes it’s true, but in these conditions NEC drive is BETTER than LiteON in terms of QUALITY and SPEED. :rolleyes:

#4

With the x3 series of firmwares simply changing the speedid byte does not work anymore. Instead you have to change the write strategy to a native 12x or 16x media code, e.g you could change MCC003 to MCC004. Check the strategy changing thread for details.

#5

Yes, I tried to change write strategy as you described but the resultant DVD has bad sectors at the end. :sad: I hope that there is a method to improve write quality in our LiteONs! :a

#6

i have had many failures overspeeding on the 3s series - i got a nice crop of ricohjpnr02’s and using the ricohjpnr03, and a couple other still get bad burns - i need to find a way to overspeed…

#7

Today, I’ve purchased SOHW-1653S. This drive has the same performance as SOHW-1633S@BS41. I think owner of 1633S do not need to buy this drive.

#8

The BS41 firmware release was for North America only, IIRC, since the 1653 wasn’t going to be released here. Thus, a 1633 w/BS41 = 1653 as far as all the write and read speeds. Besides, Sony had promised the 710 to be upgradeable to have 12x DVD-R and 4x DVD+R9.

#9

My experience has been the same. I get excellent results burning MCC003 using the 12X speed hack in OP and stock strategy. I have not found any swap on any other media that gives usable results above 12X. I do get excellent 16X burns with MCC004, but then that is to be expected, since it was designed to be written at that speed.

I sometimes wonder other than ego gratification why I even try. Since I get 8X burns with less PIF errors than I have fingers, how important is the 2 minutes per disc I save going from from 8 minutes@8X to 6 minutes@16X?

#10

btw - here is my thread on overspeeding RICOHJPNR02’s - i think MCC004 at 16x produces the LEAST ERRORS OF ALL 16X capable strats … and it’s not decent. http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?p=788403#post788403