I had a thread awhile ago 'Verbs won't load/play', where newer CMC verbs wouldn't be recognized by my old Toshiba 1609 and as it turns out my sis's Sony 314, but would work on my new Sony NS55P. I exchanged at Best Buy for what I thought was Prodisc Verbs (short hub, low lip, no square) but they had the PAPA code. They worked in the dvd players and scanned fair (pif's around 450 usually after burning a bunch/SB learning).
Best Buy had another sale about a month ago 25 spindles so bought 2 and these are definately Prodisc, but they're horrible: 1st burn:
OS off SB on/on WOPC on 12x, original firmware (too chicken to mess w/it)
oops.. clear SB data in qscan and burn a few more:
not good but semi-livable - it plays fine. here's around the 10th burn:
and did another today: 13th burn:
I've found it takes over 30 to get really really good burns on my Benq, but this is rediculous. I've tried 8x 12x 16x burns no difference, they all come out not too good.
Other thing I'm thinking about now is my burner suks - was getting superb burns before w/CMC verbs - I only have the 1 burner and none of my friends have one so can't try these discs elsewhere, too late to return 'em now too.
Where have all the good Verb's gone?! This is the 4th not-very-good spindle of Verbs I've gotten now (#3/fair thought was Prodisc but was CMC w/450+ pifs etc). I haven't opened 25-spindle #2 yet.
edit: fixed pics....