Where do you get your knowledge?

Where do you acquire your knowledge most, both qualitatively and quantitatively?

  • Knowledge including information, data, insight, wisdom, indirect experiences, and so on.

It is very difficult to say “most” knowledge, for example you could learn a lot of very trivial things afrom television, but only a few very important things from talking to people, talking to the person would mean the knowledge was worth far more to you, but it would not be “more” knowledge. You cant measure it in megabytes, so I find it very hard to work out where most of it comes from. However, I assume you are asking where we have gained the most useful knowledge, in which case it has probably been from talking to other people.

I would guess every person will (if only very little) have gained some knowledge from all of these, with the exception of dreams. Personally I cannot see how a person can gain knowledge from a dream if all a dream does is organise your current knowledge. I guess you could “unlock” some knowledge you already had via a dream, but I am not sure you can gain it, maybe “visions” are different, but personally I have never had a vision so I can’t comment on that.

As for my primary source of knowledge, well, academic knowledge for example learning maths would be from school. Wisdom doesn’t really come from any of these, but mainly from past experience of what has happened to you as a result of your choices.

Osmosis… :slight_smile:

You have to judge on your own how much value a specific piece of information has. Knowledge is matter of quality but also of quantity. For example, some people may thing one hour watching CNN news may be nearly equal to one minute reading CDFreaks news. Many intellectuals in South Korea may argue that reading a book by Confucious, preferably in Chinese, may be regarded much more important than reading 100 modern novels. Since knowledge is matter of quality as well, dreams may be regarded as inputs and outputs of knowledge as well whether they have any value or meaning or not. Thinking and imagining likewise could be sources of knowledge for many. Can you say someone who only looks at the cloudy or sunny sky or at earth has no knowledge? Babies learn a lot just from moving their own fingures and toes. We breathe and we feel we breathe and that’s often one of the best sources of knowledge of ourselves.

Imagination is only a combination of past knowledge put together or rearanged. I don’t think humans can think up anything truely new that is not based on past knowledge. A person who had been kept in an empty white room all their life could never imagine an animal that was a cross between a hippo and a wolf, however a person whom had seen both could imagine this as they have seen both, even if the hippo-wolf didn’t exist.

I wasn’t implying anyone can make a dragon out of a PC monitor. Imagination processes knowledge which results in new knowledge. If you know some numbers, you can someday write math books. If you can move your fingers, you can someday find triangles, quardrangles, and even find out how to build pyramids.

So why are you again challenging the definition of knowledge which is set merely for this specific thread poll? Everyone has a different definition of everything and how to define what is knowledge or not wasn’t the question here.

I wasnt chalenging the definition of knowledge, I was chalenging if dreams where a source of knowledge.

all of the above except school…basically trial and error…:slight_smile:

Yes, Ben… dreams were and are source of knowledge, kind of prerequisite of evolution. Jules Verne dreamed, and almost all his dreams has become a reality. Mankind is about making dreams a reality.

Interner (google.com)
TV (Discovery Mythbusters/Brainiac :P)
Dreams

Discovery Channel is a pretty big piece of the cake yes :slight_smile:

Many of my knowledges came from this forum. Most of my knowledges come from books (school and other) and from speaking with other persons. And (as everyone, I suppose) from my life experiences.

Lucky old Jules. We’re talking about a lengthy and selective post-hoc analysis there. Presumably we didn’t hear about the duff ones that didn’t work out. Personally, I hope some of my dreams never come to fruition - anyone found helping to make one or two of them become reality will probably face a ten-year stretch inside.

Dreams are patently not ‘knowledge’ per se, since they represent neither fact nor understanding. They make use of experiences and their consequences, and certainly stimulate new conscious thought or creativity using the raw materials of what we know. Reorganising knowledge is surely the purpose of dreams, but that ‘knowledge’ has to be there to start with.

It’s really difficult to ignore the effect of school and parental influence though. Attending an institution, dedicated to getting children to learn something from 4 - 16/18 years of age, has to be a fundamental factor in accumulating knowledge.

Here in Oz, schools/uni’s were a good start … now they are becoming commercialised & heading towards teaching only particular fields relevant to the sponsors.
Mostly industry specific journals.
Most PC knowledge comes from trial & error. Disc information necessarily so.
CDFreaks techical forums are a great source of background info though, if not necessarily practical.
Internet is a quagmire of garbage & fact mixed together, which makes primordial slime - requires a little processing to get anything meaningful out of it.
Books are a great way to learn theories behind things, but no practical knowledge.
Television is commercial. TV stations will tell you anything, to make money.

Dreams (?), Chatting & Television have to be the worst information sources known to man.

What I meant is that just accept that it’s just a rule of this thread. I included dreams just for fun because there are dreamers who don’t read books but dream a lot.

Would there be any “knowledge” if people didn’t dream?

Hm. My original intention was just to see whether internet’s already replacing printed books as the primary source of knowledge. I like this LCD monitor and especially when it’s displaying a lot of texts and I’m always annoyed when I see thousands of sheets of paper spread here and there at home.

I think the internet is good for quick reference to specific details or reference to something. As a elementary example my wife somehow erased the remote memory for our television. I could of looked for hours for the manual which I didn’t even know if I had or just look on the net. I had it going in a matter of minutes. If I am trying to learn something or just read for enjoyment I think I retain better with a book.
I also get disgusted with the waste of paper at work. People at work have a tendency to print crap that gets thrown out the same day or ends up laying aroubd for a few days then gets thrown out. I have started telling everyone ( pretty forcefully) to just email me the document, It is such a waste of resources, paper, equipment, ink, electricity…etc.

In any case I prefer read from a book or from a paper than from a monitor. I find it better, but it’s only a matter of personal choice.

Yes indeed School, reading (some times television) and experience are the prime learning tools. I do not discount dreams but they are the start of the quest for and not the whole piece of knowledge.
Are they the start of an idea developed into Knowledge?