Whats wrong with my 4163?

Hi! Um, lately, 4163 A105 has been having some problems. It is very inconsistent at burning everything and absolutely terrible at burning dvds. Audio CDs sometimes burn fine but most of the time, the cd will have all kinds of chops n ticks when played back on my comp or stereo… TY02 dvd+r burns always results in failure. Cd-r Data discs somehow burn perfectly (mainly mp3-cd’s for my car), all the time even on crappy indian tdk media. Is it time to invest in a new burner? I’ve ripped n burned maybe 250+ dvd+rs perfectly. Mines about a lil over a yr old…

Try to clean the lens - but be careful!

I went out and bought the memorex cd/dvd laser leans cleaner…, it still persists. as i mentioned above, the audio is all chopped up upon playback when burned with the lg, however, when i stick that audio disc into my liteon 167t, it plays back flawless!

heres excerpts from my nero log. am i doing something wrong??

Nero Version:
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 18e

Recorder: <HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B>Version: A105 - HA 1 TA 2 -
Adapter driver: <nvatabus> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM >Version: 2.7a - HA 0 TA 0 -
Adapter driver: <Vax347s> HA 0

:00:51 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483
Recorder: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B, Media type: DVD+R
Disc Manufacturer ID: YUDEN000, Media Type ID: T02, Product revision number: 0
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 3

9:02:38 PM #26 CDR -1039 File Writer.cpp, Line 311
Focus or tracking error

9:02:38 PM #27 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

9:02:38 PM #28 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
conversion idle, stopping reader

9:02:39 PM #29 SCSI -1039 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1182
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 2, LUN 0
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x04 (KEY_HARDWARE_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x09
Sense Qual: 0x01
CDB Data: 0x35 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x71 0x00 0x04 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x10
0x35 0x01 0x00 0x0E 0x09 0x01

9:02:39 PM #30 Phase 127 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Generating DVD high compatibility borders

9:02:39 PM #31 CDR -1176 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 167
Session fixation error

9:02:39 PM #32 TRANSFER -24 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 167
Could not perform end of Disc-at-once

9:02:39 PM #33 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process failed at 8x (11,080 KB/s)


9:02:38 PM #26 CDR -1039 File Writer.cpp, Line 311
Focus or tracking error
Seems, as if you’d have to open the drive, clean the lens and regrease the rails. Please do a forum search, as there had been a “How-To” posted some time ago.


This could be a hardware or software issue.

I’ve noticed with two of my systems that some piece of software installed completely messed up my 4163B’s ability to burn DVDs. Similar symptoms to yours : errors when burning DVD media and when the media did burn successfully, burn quality was horrible.
A reinstall of Windows later and the drive burned DVDs fine on both systems. The problem is, I never found out exactly what software on the system caused the problem.

I’m not suggesting reinstalling Windows; that is a near last resort. What I would suggest is to first try booting into safe mode and try a DVD burn. The writer will typically only hit 8x max in safe mode, so don’t try burning faster than that. If that works, you will know for a fact that some piece of software is interfering with your drive’s ability to burn DVDs. In safe mode, most 3rd party drivers and programs which are auto-started at bootup do not get loaded.

If that doesn’t work, try connecting the drive to another system to see if it works. If it works, then it is some sort of driver/software that safe mode could not bypass (yes, there are such things). If however, the drive won’t work even on another computer, then the drive itself is probably faulty.

ok i’ll try to do all that. thanks for all the input folks!