Pretty obvious that always applies to technology in general. But, it may very well be that people are still using their CMC and MBI from "six months ago". I understand the point you're trying to make, but the whole point of people's comments is to discuss THEIR experiences.
Outdated opinions? Maybe so. But, I don't think you can discount their UNIQUE experiences with these media. Knowing how chas0039 operates and how thorough he is about assessing his media, I doubt he would say such a thing lightly.
You cropped a section of his comments which were originally referring to Verbatim and chas0039's assessment of 3 manufacturing sources for their media: Prodisc, CMC, and MBI. At least, that is the way that I read it.
Your standard for "bad or even marginal" may be different from another's. chas0039 has an extremely high standard for assessing media, so I would think his comments should be read with that in mind.
Some people get disappointed when they go from a TYG02 <100 PIF total to a 400 PIF total. Maybe 500 is 'marginal' for some.
And, it may very well be the case you've ended up with some primo Verb's each time. Look at the variation in the BenQ TY burns. crossg, jegus, jamescooley, and some others pump out 99's and incredibly low PIF totals on practically a daily basis. Whereas, my 8x-12x PIE totals hardly ever approach their 12-16x PIE's, and my PIF's are a factor of 5-10x theirs.
Lol .. I think you just confirmed what I was trying to say above. 'Recent' CMC media ... so, you're talking within the last 6 months? Which CMC's are these? Any particular brand / MID/TID / speed rating / +/-R? I'm just a curious mind is all b/c I would like to know that there's a "very good" CMC alternative available ... now, as you say, within the last 6 months. Are we talking the CMC's on sale at Costco this week? Also, you say "very good" meaning ... quality scan wise? Longevity wise? Variability wise?
Sorry for the inquisition ... but, it's a pretty bold statement you're making, so I just wanted to get enlightened is all. Thanks.
The only MBI experience I've had is with Staples and Office Max branded MBIPG101 R04's. Initially, quality scans are superb (<4,000 PIE ttl, <50 PIF ttl) to ok/good. But, after a couple months, the PIF's are growing like weeds at the 4.0GB+ areas of the discs. I don't want to go into the whole media storage discussion, so I'll simply say that (IMO) I consider these MBI as "uncertain" as chas0039 mentioned.
... I still don't trust CMC ... maybe your response will change my mind, and maybe I can find that the CMC's you're referring are available locally. It'd be nice to have a cheap yet good quality alternative to TY, if you are implying CMC's are now on par with TY / Verbatim's. Thanks in advance.