WD to reveal Blue and Green SSD series

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#1

We’ve just posted the following news: WD to reveal Blue and Green SSD series[newsimage]http://www.myce.com/wp-content/images_posts/2016/10/HD-image-of-WD-Company-Logo-95x75.jpg[/newsimage]

Information about the release of new series of Western Digital SSDs has leaked. The information about the SSDs is still in Google’s Cache but is removed from the article that’s currently online.

            Read the full article here: [http://www.myce.com/news/wd-sales-director-accidently-reveals-high-performance-wd-blue-wd-green-ssd-series-80597/](http://www.myce.com/news/wd-sales-director-accidently-reveals-high-performance-wd-blue-wd-green-ssd-series-80597/)

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#2

D(&(&^( and I wanted to buy and stock up on WD SSD what gives… :sad:


#3

^ :slight_smile: You can wish upon a star 'til they all fall down, there will always be something to wait for, but if you think too much before your next step, you’ll end up living you life on one foot


#4

I’m surprised they waited this long. They need to get into SSDs or they’ll eventually go extinct. The only reason WD and Seagate are still around is that people can’t afford the dough to purchase 2TB SSDs for their blu-ray rips, porn, or music. Cheap platter drives will be needed for at least another 2 or 3 years. Last year I bought a new Acer i5. Ditched the 1TB Seagate Blue and put in a Samsung 512GB 850 Pro. Very satisfied and would never consider going back to HDD as my OS drive. Cool, quiet, and fast. What’s not to like? Oh, right… the price.


#5

[QUOTE=DukeNukem;2781841]I’m surprised they waited this long. They need to get into SSDs or they’ll eventually go extinct. The only reason WD and Seagate are still around is that people can’t afford the dough to purchase 2TB SSDs for their blu-ray rips, porn, or music. Cheap platter drives will be needed for at least another 2 or 3 years. Last year I bought a new Acer i5. Ditched the 1TB Seagate Blue and put in a Samsung 512GB 850 Pro. Very satisfied and would never consider going back to HDD as my OS drive. Cool, quiet, and fast. What’s not to like? Oh, right… the price.[/QUOTE]
Their milking HDD for the price and gouging the SSD that is what they are doing. If they had half brain for strategy it would be the sooner we can get them to mass production the more market shares we can take over. One would think they want this for their bottom line.


#6

SSD prices are governed by the price of NAND, and there are very few people that have the knowhow and financial clout to make SSD grade NAND.

Neither WD or Seagate make NAND, so they have very little say on the price of SSDs.

The people who do make SSD grade NAND are NOT going to ramp up production to drive down NAND prices, when they can make a tidy profit as things stand.

The amount of investment required to make your own SSD grade NAND is enormous. So get with the program. Market forces dictate the price of NAND, and therefore the prices of SSDs.


#7

[QUOTE=Dee;2781843]SSD prices are governed by the price of NAND, and there are very few people that have the knowhow and financial clout to make SSD grade NAND.

Neither WD or Seagate make NAND, so they have very little say on the price of SSDs.

The people who do make SSD grade NAND are NOT going to ramp up production to drive down NAND prices, when they can make a tidy profit as things stand.

The amount of investment required to make your own SSD grade NAND is enormous. So get with the program. Market forces dictate the price of NAND, and therefore the prices of SSDs.[/QUOTE]
I really cant imagine them getting much cheaper in 2017. 4TBs for just under 1,000USD is 250USD a TB, thats pretty cheap.


#8

[QUOTE=alan1476;2781846]I really cant imagine them getting much cheaper in 2017. 4TBs for just under 1,000USD is 250USD a TB, thats pretty cheap.[/QUOTE]
Compared to HDD 8tb Seagate 239.99 will sell more then 4tb SSD @1k. That isn’t hard to do the math.


#9

[QUOTE=Dee;2781843]SSD prices are governed by the price of NAND, and there are very few people that have the knowhow and financial clout to make SSD grade NAND.[/QUOTE]Because of closed IP that no one wants to be open source kills innovations.

[QUOTE=Dee;2781843]Neither WD or Seagate make NAND, so they have very little say on the price of SSDs.[/QUOTE]Oh yes they do they can begin to do their own NAND and that will force pirate NAND companies to rethink their business model. Competition will force them to change their mindset.

[QUOTE=Dee;2781843]The people who do make SSD grade NAND are NOT going to ramp up production to drive down NAND prices, when they can make a tidy profit as things stand.[/QUOTE]This is what happens when deregulation was suppose to benefit the consumers of which I yet to see any benefits to consumers. Oh and another thing US Tax payers subsidize their business taxes and for them to think they are the only one having to bear the burdens is a joke.

[QUOTE=Dee;2781843]The amount of investment required to make your own SSD grade NAND is enormous. So get with the program. Market forces dictate the price of NAND, and therefore the prices of SSDs.[/QUOTE]And there is also a huge investment the Tax payers subsidizes their taxes and infrastructures so they can build from it. So let’s be clear about whom is paying whom here. If they got no tax subsidies they wouldn’t be near where they are now.


#10

[QUOTE=coolcolors;2781848]Oh yes they do they can begin to do their own NAND and that will force pirate NAND companies to rethink their business model. Competition will force them to change their mindset.[/QUOTE]This would require them to come up with a fabrication facility AND come up with the necessary NAND designs.

The majority of chipmakers are fabless, handling the design but not the manufacturing, because it’s expensive, competitive, and hard. To open a fabrication facility just to make a few SSDs is, at this moment, a waste of capital.

As for the idea of designing NAND for production anywhere else: still wouldn’t make them fully price competitive, nor would it be worth it when the market is only somewhat hot.

Even then, they would be the only ones using their brand of NAND. While that would allow them to set their own prices, there is no way for them to be competitive, nor is there a way for them to recoup any losses on their investment. It would be first generation product going up against… What, 6 to 10 generations of rapid improvement for low-end flash media alone.

To dive head first into the manufacture of a product, from top to bottom, would surely mean the end of a company. Production of a few niche products for a few generations would likely be equally disastrous if not planned correctly.

So don’t expect them to disrupt the market for a while yet. :wink:

I’ve no comment on the rest of what you said.


#11

[QUOTE=coolcolors;2781848]Because of closed IP that no one wants to be open source kills innovations.[/QUOTE]I really find that statement quite funny. actually ‘piracy’ kills innovation.

I hear a lot about the greed of the big company’s here on this forum. They claim that music and movie makers are so greedy for example. They talk about the greed of software giants like MS, now we hear that NAND makers are greedy.

Using Toshiba as an example, who actually invented NAND.

By your reckoning. Toshiba, who no doubt spent billions getting their first NAND product to market, having done so, should just give their IP away for free. :slight_smile:

Would you like to share your bank account details with everyone here, so we can just take all your hard earned? How about making that open source. :smiley:


#12

Coolcolors, if you were to give me your bank account details then I could use your cash to bring down the price of a 4TB SSD… for me.


#13

[QUOTE=DukeNukem;2781878]Coolcolors, if you were to give me your bank account details then I could use your cash to bring down the price of a 4TB SSD… for me.[/QUOTE]
Sure…just tell me your routing account details and I’ll make sure to post for all to be able to use the funds for their purchase.


#14

[QUOTE=Dee;2781850]I really find that statement quite funny. actually ‘piracy’ kills innovation.

I hear a lot about the greed of the big company’s here on this forum. They claim that music and movie makers are so greedy for example. They talk about the greed of software giants like MS, now we hear that NAND makers are greedy.

Using Toshiba as an example, who actually invented NAND.

By your reckoning. Toshiba, who no doubt spent billions getting their first NAND product to market, having done so, should just give their IP away for free. :slight_smile:

Would you like to share your bank account details with everyone here, so we can just take all your hard earned? How about making that open source. :D[/QUOTE]
Going by those statements if tax payers didn’t pay for the internet infrastructures and road infrastructure those would go nowhere fast either. They always want the taxpayers to give them tax breaks but yet give no breaks for the taxpayers whom paid their subsidized taxes. Also nothing come from the air they resulted from another tech that was then built upon and monetized to make money. Da-vinci invented the wing but got no payout for doing so. He made drawings and designs we continue to use today but forget where it came from. But then again taxpayers had to foot the bill to get them started but get no credit for doing so.


#15

^ A tad too existential?
Most new technology usually sees governmental or international funding at one point, and yes, it is yours and my money on the line through various agreements. What I fail to see is what this has to do with current prices.
Once any product or technology has passed the development phase, the market takes over and from then, the market which for many products includes you and me decides its price tag… If there’s no buyers on the $1000 mark, they’ll be hunting them on the $900 or $800 mark, I find this a really simple mechanism…


#16

Well i for one will not never pay the HIGH prices they want for 500gb upwards ssd…I got a 250GB and that is fine. I’ll stick to my 7200rpm HDD for now to Eternity…
Other thing, after reading that ssd can fail after so many writes etc. The price is a Mockery & Rip Off. So Be it.


#17

[QUOTE=MrScary;2781937]Well i for one will not never pay the HIGH prices they want for 500gb upwards ssd…[/QUOTE]

Is this what you call a high price?

Prices are always going down on drives, be patient.