WASTE - what do cdfreaks think?

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#1

I’ve been reading about a program called WASTE on slashdot

It appears to allow strong encrypted file sharing peer to peer, with chat as well.
As far as I can tell it does things with just a small cluster of users and they all have to contact each other to share their public keys. This makes it more truly peer to peer I suppose than the miasmic network of kazaa et al.

What do Cdfreaks think-
What could this be used for?
Does it do anything we can’t already do with other P2P software?
Is it evil or good?
Will we use it?


#2

Listen to what Nullsoft is saying about this piece of software though:

from http://www.nullsoft.com/free/waste/


[i]"NOTICE OF UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE

An unauthorized copy of Nullsoft’s copyrighted software was briefly posted on this website on or about Wednesday May 28, 2003. The software was identified as “WASTE” (the “Software”) and includes the files “waste-setup.exe”, “waste-source.zip”, “waste-source.tar.gz” and any additional files contained in these files.

Nullsoft is the exclusive owner of all right, title and interest in the Software. The posting of the Software on this website was not authorized by Nullsoft.

If you downloaded or otherwise obtained a copy of the Software, you acquired no lawful rights to the Software and must destroy any and all copies of the Software, including by deleting it from your computer. Any license that you may believe you acquired with the Software is void, revoked and terminated.

Any reproduction, distribution, display or other use of the Software by you is unauthorized and an infringement of Nullsoft’s copyright in the Software as well as a potential violation of other laws.

Thank you.

Nullsoft "[/i]


Doesnt seem like they want anybody to use it …


#3

Why do nullsoft get all winged up? :confused:
Winamp may have gone downhill lately but no need to take it out on others…


#4

quote
AOL pulls Nullsoft file-sharing software

Time: 00:40 EST/05:40 GMT | News Source: News.com | Posted By: Jonathan Tigner
A day after developers at America Online’s Nullsoft unit quietly released file-sharing software, AOL pulled the link to the product from the subsidiary’s Web site.

The software, called Waste, lets groups set up private, secure file-sharing networks. The product became available on Nullsoft’s Web site on Wednesday, just days shy of the four-year anniversary of being acquired by AOL. Waste is a software application that combines peer-to-peer file sharing with instant messaging, chat and file searches. Users can set up their own network of friends and share files between each other.

The features of Waste are similar to those of file-swapping services such as Kazaa and the defunct Napster, but the difference is that only small networks of people (up to 50, according to the Web site) can use it. The software also offers encryption and authentication to prevent non-invitees from accessing the private networks.


The strange thing is …this happened afther AOL made a deal with Microsoft


#5

it has the GPL on it. good luck keeping this in house.

//figures out how to create a network tomorrow


#6

AOL Is Dreaming


#7

Praise GPL. Been trying to find a private P2P prog for sharing stuff. Gonna see if I can get a copy. I got AIM’s direct connect working once, but the transfer rate of 5kb/sec is unbearable. Now how am I suppose to exchange porn w/ friends when it’s 5 freaking kb/sec? It’ll take like 2 days just to d/l a 700MB divx. using cable and DSL btw


#8

There’s not much privacy and security if i keep my key here of course :slight_smile:

Perhaps i will make a new key when weird people come on line on my shares :slight_smile:

For now i doubt many people have copied my key.

I suggest you all do the same.


#9

WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY 20 1536 ckin2001
BCA61F14D27BF9BC18E1FABE981CD881CF2ED2A57BE54576D6A56DFC9515
2AAAB120B49B4064C8B80FD9AAF895A908529F4E3E146E57BE7DA10FD6A9
529BD2D935DC51045EC170492A6A74C2271A7A9E54F95ADC709DA15E63BB
8E92011895537ADD25CF01FE0DF03BE6E3396509142C95864A676D27A1A5
ED19462C51EA4AC8AEEF9801C98D179B9CCF6C2F6774F0B00ECF43EFA4F4
C7B32572133B595299CBDABD098A62D6016172BF20731441E2479F8FFE78
9140B98819DCF41FCD0A2DE70003010001
WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY_END


#10

WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY 20 1536 Hemi
ITW@SPOSTED H3R3BUTN0WITSG0N3
WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY_END


Added you 2 up :wink:


#11

<censored>

Added you three :slight_smile:


#12

Who/what should I connect to?
Tried u three’s ips but you’re not up…


#13

I’m not at home at the moment but will import all your keys when i am. We can try then. say around 9 pm CEST


#14

If you downloaded or otherwise obtained a copy of the Software, you acquired no lawful rights to the Software and must destroy any and all copies of the Software, including by deleting it from your computer. Any license that you may believe you acquired with the Software is void, revoked and terminated.

is it smart to talk about this software so openly on this forum???

:confused:


#15

Ok I’ll be in #cdfreaks-int

Originally posted by damiandimitri
is it smart to talk about this software so openly on this forum???
:confused:

It is released under the GPL.


#16

I c…but what about the text Nullsoft published…about the software beeing illegal

Does GPL overrules this?


quote
Justin Frankel, the creator of Winamp, has announced to leave Nullsoft in his .plan yesterday.

This seems to be the result of a possible dispute with his employer AOL over the P2P-software “WASTE”, which was released by Justin a few days ago on the Nullsoft website and then taken down one day later. All that is left on the former download page is a notice that the software was posted without authorization. WASTE allowed encrypted instant messaging, group chats and file-sharing and was published with complete source code. Justin explains in his .plan that his freedom of expression – which he claims to do best through coding – is being constrained by his employer and that it is time to do something different.
quote

some new info


#17

Originally posted by damiandimitri
[B]I c…but what about the text Nullsoft published…about the software beeing illegal

Does GPL overrules this?
[/B]

In a way … yes. Once it’s been published under official GPL license , it’s very very very hard to rectract this. The license gives other people opportunity to change the source and redistribute it. So if they even changed 1 bit in the entire source code , it could be rereleased.

Somehow i think Nullsoft just took a lot of ideas (Gaim , IM , MSN , PGP , Blowfish , etc) and put them all together in one semi-cool open source instant messenger.

It’s a matter of time when someone will rewrite Kazaa with this kind of encryption.

Lawyers will have a very hard time proving that you downloaded it from an illegal source , because it’s been on the website of Nullsoft for some time and people downloaded it from there.


#18

thanx

then it will be part of my collection also…:bigsmile:


#19

Got it working, cool prog :slight_smile:


#20

Originally posted by Airhead
Got it working, cool prog :slight_smile:

nevermind , browsing your directories already :slight_smile: