[QUOTE=larc919;2128420]-R was also MIT, but had a lower lip than the +R paks. So I assumed Prodisc even with the serif font on the cakebox top and, in spite of really needing some -R, passed on those as well.[/QUOTE]
On the Neo-Verb packs, you can’t compare between +R and -R cakeboxes.
The height of the lip for CMC media is relatively higher than Prodisc, but only within the same type of media. So, the CMC lip for -R media is higher than the Prodisc lip for -R media, but it’s not the same height as the CMC lip for +R media. For the -Rs, CMC is higher-lipped than Prodisc, in a relative sense, not necessarily high-lipped, in an absolute sense. Prodisc -R spindles could be more correctly described as no-lip, since the lip is almost non-existent. If you see them side by side, which I have, the distinction is obvious.
Once again, Prodisc -R spindles have an extremely tiny lip, making the top seem almost flat. CMC -R spindles have a low-lip, but one which is obviously there, and it’s higher than the Prodisc -R lip.
And once again, to reiterate what has been said many times, this only applies to the 100-pack.