Verbatim MCC 03RG20 branded: Gigamax

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#1

Greetings

I just bought a cheap Gigamax dvd-r 16x 10-spindle, that cost about 20 cents a piece. I was astonished when I used DiscSpeed to find that the media is a verbatim MCC 03RG20
Could that be a fake media, specially at that low price? Or is it the real thing? How do I know?

Anyway, here is the info I got from DiscSpeed 4.11.2.0:

Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc type: : DVD-R
Book Type : DVD-R
Manufacturer: : Verbatim
MID : MCC 03RG20
Write speeds: : 4 X - 8 X
Blank Capacity : 4.38 GB
: 4489 MB
: 4707319808 bytes
Extended Information
Layers : 1
Usage : General
Copyright protection : n/a
Recorder information : recorded with HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-T40N
Disc Status : Open
Raw Data
Pre-recorded Information in Lead-in (0Eh)
0000 - 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 85 0D 0E 88 9A 80 00 - .@…R…
0010 - 03 4D 43 43 20 30 33 00 04 52 47 32 30 20 20 00 - .MCC.03…RG20…
0020 - 05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00 35 27 1D 76 78 45 22 00 - …5’.vxE".
0030 - 24 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 0B 00 00 00 68 38 24 00 - $…h8$.
0040 - 00 00 1F 00 03 F9 EE FF FF FF FF FF 3D F7 1C 76 - …=…v
0050 - 00 00 00 00 D4 01 11 00 07 00 00 00 3C 02 11 00 - …<…
0060 - 0B 00 00 00 00 00 1F 00 68 38 24 00 3C 02 11 00 - …h8$.<…

I failed to run a cd quality test because the start button is grayed out, I don’t know why…

#2

Please post any codes around the hub of the disc (both in the dye and on the clear part).

My guess would be fake, but we’ll see what the hub codes tell us. :slight_smile:

BTW, the quality scan option was greyed out because LG drives don’t support the function. :wink:

#3

in the dye: DVD-R 16X 70104-M8
on the clear part: T761E11DX08546A1

(I didn’t know what my drive’s brand was, thanks for informing me) Is there another test tool that is compatible with LG drives?

Here is also dvd identifier’s result:

Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:MCC 03RG20 ]

Disc & Book Type : [DVD-R] - [DVD-R]
Manufacturer Name : [Mitsubishi Chemical Corp.]
Manufacturer ID : [MCC 03RG20 ]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,298,496 Sectors = 4.71 GB (4.38 GiB)]

[ DVD Identifier V5.0.1 - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]

#4
    • Moved from Blank DVD Media Tests sub-forum to Blank Media forum * *
#5

Thanks for the codes…they don’t look geniune to me.

One test you can perform on the LG (HL-DT-ST is how they name all their drives: it stands for Hitachi-LG Data Storage) is the Transfer Rate Test in CD-DVD Speed :slight_smile:

Edit: Thanks Drage, I completely missed where this was posted :o

#6

Definitely fakes :iagree:

#7

But why does a company fake the ID codes when they sell it under their humble brand? I mean, what benefit will they gain? there is no mention of verbatim anywhere on the spindle cover…

#9

I’ve tested the media using another drive:

=========================
General Information
Drive: BENQ DVD LS DW1655
Firmware: BCDB
Disc: DVD-R (MCC 03RG20 )
Selected speed: 8 X
PI errors
Maximum: 58
Average: 12.61
Total: 212084
PI failures
Maximum: 15
Average: 0.04
Total: 5913
PO failures: 0
Jitter
Maximum: 13.0 %
Average: 9.53 %
Scanning Statistics
Elapsed time: 9:21
Number of samples: 16776
Average scanning interval: 8.02 ECC
Glitches removed: 0

So how good is this result?

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#10

Advanced disc quality test:

Error Maximum Total Average
1 PIE 46 203977 12.25
2 PIE 18 27362 1.64
3 PIE 10 4055 0.24
4 PIE 7 1802 0.11
5 PIE 4 1009 0.06
PIF 9 4789 0.29
PIE 70 242994 14.60
Jitter 12.4% n/a 9.58%
POE 561 153225 9.20
POF 0 0 0.00

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#11

[QUOTE=sallam;2119788]But why does a company fake the ID codes when they sell it under their humble brand? I mean, what benefit will they gain? there is no mention of verbatim anywhere on the spindle cover…[/QUOTE]

Probably to make it burn well under a well-supported write strategy… who knows? What’s certain is you’ve gotten non-genuine MCC 03RG20, and that’s an evil-looking spike right at the end. I suggest you not burn any critical data on it or at least try to avoid burning past 3.7-3.8GB on it. :Z

#12

[QUOTE=sallam;2119788]But why does a company fake the ID codes when they sell it under their humble brand? I mean, what benefit will they gain? there is no mention of verbatim anywhere on the spindle cover…[/QUOTE]

Like evo69 said, its to gain compitability with burners.

#13

Thanks for confirming that its fake IDs,
Now, regarding the quality test results of that Gigamax media, what do you make out of it? is it any good? I’ll use them mainly to burn ps2 images for my kids…

#14

They should be ok for every-day use PS2 backups.
Burn them at 8x and try if your PS2 reads them :iagree:

#15

fakes like Playo from Staples. But could still be ok for day to day use.