Verbatim made in India is crap?

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#1

Hello there; i know this is the Plextor sub-forum but i have a PX755a and i think is the better place to ask.

I just discovered that Verbatim 16x+r media is not all the same; as Mitsubishi sells their dye at others fabricants.

I have some Verbatim DVD+R 16x in spindles of 25; all made in India (by Moser Bauer i think) (and the OPEN<->LOCK writing is “sans serif”).
i have order them in an online store (nierle.com);it’s impossible to know where they made before buy…and i don’t want to buy them in my country because of the high taxes…

i have noticed that the burns made with my 755a at 16x is not always flawless; so it is because of the media ?

i have read so much opinions about that and i still confused so my question is :

Verbatim made in India by Moser Bauer is good enough or there is a high difference by the one made by CMC or others ?


#2

I was lucky to get some Japan-made MCC004’s, and the difference is astonishing: They feel smoother, they record at a faster avg. speed and definitely show better scans. I’d had ten coasters out of a 100-pcs. cakebox that had been made in India. However, there are members of the forum who had the best scans with the Indian discs.


#3

I think that most here find the Made in India Verbs OK.

When they first started appearing I got the impression that the quality was a little variable but always acceptable - depending just how picky you are of course.


#4

Are the MIJ MCC 004s development samples?
I guess the next best thing that we could get was Made in Singapore MCC 004, but I haven’t found any :sad:

The Indian ones are more variable but are usually ok. This also depends on the burner (I heard that Samsung burners are very neutral).


#5

The Indian ones are more variable but are usually ok. This also depends on the burner
ditto, that pretty much sums it up.


#6

I read somewhere that the edges are not sealed, and that this means they are less stable long term.
Anyone know if this is true?


#7

That’s what I meant by saying they felt smoother. I didn’t know what it was, so, yes, it is, and thank you for explaining it :slight_smile: .


#8

Thanks for your clear answer; it’s also my feeling.

I have to say that the quality is great at 12x and 8x speed; but not always at 16x with these MCC04 made in India.
But I never had a coaster and i have burned maybe 120 of theses discs.
I am very curious in the “quality gap” and i want to try some MCC04 made in japan !
any hint for a French guy where to buy them ?
are they more expensive ?

What is your experience with Plextor drives ?


#9

If you have Saturn in your country, try to get some there. They have filled their shops with Japan-made discs.

I only burn at 16x. You can see one of my scans here: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=1655906&postcount=114


#10

Verbatim CDs in my Saturn are all made in China! :frowning:


#11

Infortunately i don’t have these shops in my country; besides your scan seems terrible or am i reading it wrong ?


#12

This scan is a catastrophy. I’ve had twenty coasters out of the 100 pcs. cake box.


#13

I’ve never heard of Japan-made MCC 004. Maybe you meant Verbatim DVD+R 16X discs with YUDEN000 T03 code, as these are the ones labeled “Made in Japan”?


#14

The mysterious MIJ stuff is very impressive.


#15

@Cressida: TY, indeed. I hadn’t scanned them for the MID because the difference is obvious, you can feel it. Now I know why. I should go to Saturn’s again and grab as many as I can. So, if you see a Santa again, it’ll be me …


#16

I am also living in France and I dont buy my Verbatim MCC-004 on-line because I know about this problem.
Photos published by nierle on their site are not accurate anyway.

Because I have the luck to live near the border I buy them in Germany in “brick an wall stores”. This way I am able to check them according to the explanations given in this thread [B](many thanks to kg_evilboy !)[/B]:
« The Cakebox Gallery »
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=189893

In these “brick an wall stores” they are a bit more expensive than online but a lot cheaper than in France and you don’t have to buy a lot in order to lower sending costs.
So if you have the chance to travel …


#17

thank you franz99; but i’m living in the est- south; near NICE…
i know that in Italy they sell the cakebox of 25 verbatim +r16x for 8€; but i don’t know what is the country of fabrication.
I will check later as a friend have a spindle of theses.