Verbatim 6x BDR-DL (Verbatimf)

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#1

Media: Verbatim 6x BDR-DL
MID: Verbatimf
Burner: PIONEER BDR-206
Burn Speed: 8x
ImgBurn setting (default):

  • Perform OPC before write : unchecked
  • BD-R verify not required : checked
    Scanner : Samsung SH-B123L

Greetings.
My first burn. Appreciate any kind advice on improving the burn quality.

  1. The two scans look quite different. Is this normal?
  2. The Pioneer detected the burn speed of the mrdia as 8x, but the Sony reported 6x. Why?
  3. Is it true that the Samsung scan reports higher error rate?
  4. How’s the reliability of Nero scan?
  5. Is the Verbatimf known to produce less than satisfactory burn quality scan?
  6. Any suggestions for ImgBurn settings, eg. burn speed & etc?

Many thanks and best regards.


I 12:06:56 ImgBurn Version 2.5.7.0 started!
I 12:06:56 Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1)
I 12:06:56 Total Physical Memory: 3,406,380 KB  -  Available: 2,358,976 KB
I 12:06:56 Initialising SPTI...
I 12:06:56 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 12:06:56 -> Drive 1 - Info: ELBY CLONEDRIVE 1.4 (F:) (SCSI)
I 12:06:56 -> Drive 2 - Info: PIONEER BD-RW   BDR-206 1.06 (D:) (RAID)
I 12:06:56 Found 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM and 1 BD-RE!
I 12:08:04 Operation Started!
I 12:08:04 Source File: G:\apple.iso
I 12:08:04 Source File Sectors: 20,172,352 (MODE1/2048)
I 12:08:04 Source File Size: 41,312,976,896 bytes
I 12:08:04 Source File Volume Identifier: tes
I 12:08:04 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 4094B3AA0133CD66
I 12:08:04 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.7.0
I 12:08:04 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 12:08:04 Source File File System(s): UDF (2.50)
I 12:08:04 Destination Device: [5:5:0] PIONEER BD-RW   BDR-206 1.06 (D:) (RAID)
I 12:08:04 Destination Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: VERBAT-IMf-000)
I 12:08:04 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x
I 12:08:04 Destination Media Sectors: 24,438,784
I 12:08:04 Write Mode: BD
I 12:08:04 Write Type: DAO
I 12:08:04 Write Speed: MAX
I 12:08:04 Hardware Defect Management Active: No
I 12:08:04 BD-R Verify Not Required: Yes
I 12:08:04 Link Size: Auto
I 12:08:04 Lock Volume: Yes
I 12:08:04 Test Mode: No
I 12:08:04 OPC: No
I 12:08:04 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 12:08:04 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 35,960 KB/s (8x)
I 12:08:04 Advanced Settings - Optimal Writing Speed: No
I 12:08:05 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)
I 12:08:05 Writing LeadIn...
I 12:08:21 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 20172351)
I 12:08:21 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 20172351)
I 12:08:21 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 12219391)
I 12:21:00 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 12219392 - 20172351)
I 12:28:55 Synchronising Cache...
I 12:28:56 Closing Track...
I 12:28:57 Finalising Disc...
I 12:29:08 Exporting Graph Data...
I 12:29:08 Graph Data File: C:\Users\e7aum\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PIONEER_BD-RW_BDR-206_1.06_SATURDAY-APRIL-21-2012_12-08_PM_VERBAT-IMf-000_MAX.ibg
I 12:29:08 Export Successfully Completed!
I 12:29:08 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:21:03
I 12:29:08 Average Write Rate: 32,694 KB/s (7.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 36,085 KB/s (8.0x)
I 12:29:08 Cycling Tray before Verify...
I 12:29:35 Device Ready!
I 12:29:35 Operation Started!
I 12:29:35 Source Device: [5:5:0] PIONEER BD-RW   BDR-206 1.06 (D:) (RAID)
I 12:29:35 Source Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: VERBAT-IMf-000)
I 12:29:35 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x
I 12:29:35 Image File: G:\apple.iso
I 12:29:35 Image File Sectors: 20,172,352 (MODE1/2048)
I 12:29:35 Image File Size: 41,312,976,896 bytes
I 12:29:35 Image File Volume Identifier: Apple
I 12:29:35 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 4094B3AA0133CD66
I 12:29:35 Image File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.7.0
I 12:29:35 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 12:29:35 Image File File System(s): UDF (2.50)
I 12:29:35 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX
I 12:29:36 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 20172351)
I 12:29:37 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 20172351)
I 12:29:37 Verifying Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 12219391)
I 12:46:04 Verifying Layer 1... (LBA: 12219392 - 20172351)
I 12:55:03 Exporting Graph Data...
I 12:55:03 Graph Data File: C:\Users\e7aum\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PIONEER_BD-RW_BDR-206_1.06_SATURDAY-APRIL-21-2012_12-08_PM_VERBAT-IMf-000_MAX.ibg
I 12:55:03 Export Successfully Completed!
I 12:55:03 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:25:26
I 12:55:03 Average Verify Rate: 26,455 KB/s (5.9x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 36,117 KB/s (8.0x)


#2

You need to use Opti Drive Control to scan BD-R. Nero Disc Speed and CD-Speed will not scan BD-R correctly. Verbatim is usually one of the best BD-R you can purchase. ODC is here http://club.myce.com/f96/opti-drive-control-erik-deppe-274820/. :wink:


#3

[QUOTE=mariner8611;2632357]
ImgBurn setting (default):

  • Perform OPC before write : unchecked
  • BD-R verify not required : checked
    Scanner : Samsung SH-B123L

Greetings.
My first burn. Appreciate any kind advice on improving the burn quality.

  1. The two scans look quite different. Is this normal?[/QUOTE]
    Jamescooley1 is right, you will need ODC. Version 1.50 . If you have trouble scanning with the Samsung, you may need to flash the firmware to SB03.
  1. The Pioneer detected the burn speed of the mrdia as 8x, but the Sony reported 6x. Why?

Different drives/firmwares have different maximum speeds for the same media based on the drive’s capabilities and/or the drive manufacturer’s opinion of the safest maximum burn speed for that media.

  1. Is it true that the Samsung scan reports higher error rate?

The SH-B123L scanning is much closer to a Lite-on than the SH-B083 model from what I am seeing.

  1. How’s the reliability of Nero scan?
    Very poor by most reports.
  1. Is the Verbatimf known to produce less than satisfactory burn quality scan?
    They vary more than I would like. But not common to get a bad/unusable burn at rated speed or less.
  1. Any suggestions for ImgBurn settings, eg. burn speed & etc?

Always start by burning at rated speed or slower. Occasionally you might find a media that burns well at above rated speed, but this is generally not the case with BD-R DL.


#4

Greetings James and Dean. Thanks for the kind reply.

  1. Is there a problem with ODC ver 1.51?
  2. Does it work with the Sony 5300s and Samsung SH-B123L (SB04)?
  3. I have done a Nero scan of a commercial disc that seems to look Ok. Is it a valid test?

Many thanks and best regards.



#5

[QUOTE=mariner8611;2632638]Greetings James and Dean. Thanks for the kind reply.

  1. Is there a problem with ODC ver 1.51?
  2. Does it work with the Sony 5300s and Samsung SH-B123L (SB04)?
  3. I have done a Nero scan of a commercial disc that seems to look Ok. Is it a valid test?

Many thanks and best regards.[/QUOTE]

Yes there is. It can’t display the disc’s media code. Version 1.50 works very well.

Since you have a Lite-on clone in your Sony to scan with, you will be able to perform scans that can be compared to other iHBS112/212 scans.
With no control over the scanning speed, no reporting of the error totals, and questionable results, you will not be able to use DiscSpeed to access your media quality effectively.

I’m sorry, but without Opti Drive Control, you can’t hope to judge your burns relative to the scans you see being done by others.


#6
  1. Had difficulty getting Opti to work on the Sony 5300s. Scan speed was .001x.

  2. Second attempt to burn at 4x w/ OPC and BD-R verify on did not fare much better. Changing scanning sped seemed to produce different results. Any suggestions on the correct scanning speed to use?

Media: Verbatim 6x BDR-DL
MID: VERBAT-IMf-000
Burner: PIONEER BDR-206
Burn Speed: 4x
ImgBurn setting :

  • Perform OPC before write : checked
  • BD-R verify not required : unchecked
    Scanner : Samsung SH-B123L

I 09:45:09 ImgBurn Version 2.5.7.0 started!
I 09:45:09 Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1)
I 09:45:09 Total Physical Memory: 3,406,380 KB  -  Available: 2,536,168 KB
I 09:45:09 Initialising SPTI...
I 09:45:09 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 09:45:09 -> Drive 1 - Info: Optiarc BD RW BD-5300S 2.00 (H:) (RAID)
I 09:45:09 -> Drive 2 - Info: PIONEER BD-RW   BDR-206 1.06 (D:) (RAID)
I 09:45:09 Found 2 BD-REs!
I 09:46:21 Operation Started!
I 09:46:21 Source File: G:\Em24.iso
I 09:46:21 Source File Sectors: 17,205,280 (MODE1/2048)
I 09:46:21 Source File Size: 35,236,413,440 bytes
I 09:46:21 Source File Volume Identifier: Emmanuelle
I 09:46:21 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 4094AC0A010686E9
I 09:46:21 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.7.0
I 09:46:21 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 09:46:21 Source File File System(s): UDF (2.50)
I 09:46:21 Destination Device: [5:5:0] PIONEER BD-RW   BDR-206 1.06 (D:) (RAID)
I 09:46:21 Destination Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: VERBAT-IMf-000)
I 09:46:21 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x
I 09:46:21 Destination Media Sectors: 24,438,784
I 09:46:21 Write Mode: BD
I 09:46:21 Write Type: DAO
I 09:46:21 Write Speed: 4x
I 09:46:21 Hardware Defect Management Active: No
I 09:46:21 BD-R Verify Not Required: Yes
I 09:46:21 Link Size: Auto
I 09:46:21 Lock Volume: Yes
I 09:46:21 Test Mode: No
I 09:46:21 OPC: Yes
I 09:46:21 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 09:46:21 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 17,980 KB/s (4x)
I 09:46:21 Advanced Settings - Optimal Writing Speed: No
I 09:46:45 Filling Buffer... (80 MB)
I 09:46:46 Writing LeadIn...
I 09:46:47 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 17205279)
I 09:46:47 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 17205279)
I 09:46:47 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 12219391)
I 10:10:16 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 12219392 - 17205279)
I 10:19:56 Synchronising Cache...
I 10:19:57 Closing Track...
I 10:19:59 Finalising Disc...
I 10:20:12 Exporting Graph Data...
I 10:20:12 Graph Data File: C:\Users\e7aum\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PIONEER_BD-RW_BDR-206_1.06_TUESDAY-MAY-01-2012_9-46_AM_VERBAT-IMf-000_4x.ibg
I 10:20:12 Export Successfully Completed!
I 10:20:12 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:33:50
I 10:20:12 Average Write Rate: 17,309 KB/s (3.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 18,049 KB/s (4.0x)
I 10:20:12 Cycling Tray before Verify...
I 10:20:38 Device Ready!
I 10:20:39 Operation Started!
I 10:20:39 Source Device: [5:5:0] PIONEER BD-RW   BDR-206 1.06 (D:) (RAID)
I 10:20:39 Source Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: VERBAT-IMf-000)
I 10:20:39 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x
I 10:20:39 Image File: G:\Em24.iso
I 10:20:39 Image File Sectors: 17,205,280 (MODE1/2048)
I 10:20:39 Image File Size: 35,236,413,440 bytes
I 10:20:39 Image File Volume Identifier: Em24
I 10:20:39 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 4094AC0A010686E9
I 10:20:39 Image File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.7.0
I 10:20:39 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 10:20:39 Image File File System(s): UDF (2.50)
I 10:20:39 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX
I 10:20:40 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 17205279)
I 10:20:40 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 17205279)
I 10:20:40 Verifying Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 12219391)
I 10:37:07 Verifying Layer 1... (LBA: 12219392 - 17205279)
I 10:42:21 Exporting Graph Data...
I 10:42:21 Graph Data File: C:\Users\e7aum\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PIONEER_BD-RW_BDR-206_1.06_TUESDAY-MAY-01-2012_9-46_AM_VERBAT-IMf-000_4x.ibg
I 10:42:21 Export Successfully Completed!
I 10:42:21 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:21:41
I 10:42:21 Average Verify Rate: 26,490 KB/s (5.9x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 36,099 KB/s (8.0x)







#7

[QUOTE=mariner8611;2632792]1. Had difficulty getting Opti to work on the Sony 5300s. Scan speed was .001x.

  1. Second attempt to burn at 4x w/ OPC and BD-R verify on did not fare much better. Changing scanning sped seemed to produce different results. Any suggestions on the correct scanning speed to use?
    [/QUOTE]

You may want to try this to scan with your Sony.

4x scanning is probably best for DL’s. Errors get magnified too much beyond that speed.


#8

[QUOTE=deanwitty;2633090]You may want to try this to scan with your Sony.

4x scanning is probably best for DL’s. Errors get magnified too much beyond that speed.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the reply Dean.

  1. Does not work.
  2. It seems scan results vary greatly. See [U]this[/U] for example. How does one determine which is accurate?

Best regards.