Upgrade a celeron

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#1

Hi all!

So i have an HP-Compaq 610 with:
cpu: Intel Celeron M 570 @2.26GH -support: Socket 478 mPGA
motherboard: HP 308A, chipset: intel gme965
graphics: Mobile Intel® 965 Express Chipset family.(x3100)

So, i found a pentium T2390 Dual Core at 1.86Gh to upgrade. This pentium was in a laptop
with my same specs(chipset 965, x3100, same socket etc…).
Will this be a good upgrade choise? Will i have any problems installing it, or problems after installing it?
Also i am getting confused as i look things further and further.Some software reffers my socket as 479. Intel’s website reffers it as ppga478.

Thanks


#2

[QUOTE=shot00;2617960]Hi all!

So i have an HP-Compaq 610 with:
cpu: Intel Celeron M 570 @2.26GH -support: Socket 478 mPGA
motherboard: HP 308A, chipset: intel gme965
graphics: Mobile Intel® 965 Express Chipset family.(x3100)

So, i found a pentium T2390 Dual Core at 1.86Gh to upgrade. This pentium was in a laptop
with my same specs(chipset 965, x3100, same socket etc…).
Will this be a good upgrade choise? Will i have any problems installing it, or problems after installing it?
Also i am getting confused as i look things further and further.Some software reffers my socket as 479. Intel’s website reffers it as ppga478.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

You should be fine with that upgrade the O/S will detect the new CPU and load the correct drivers for it from Windows. But make sure you use something like silver thermal paste to improve cooling the new CPU. From what the Intel specs indicate that processor can go up to a T8300 mobile CPU as well. But as you go up in price for used CPU they tend to get expensive depending on die and speed and FSB as well. But if you could get a Duo 2 Core instead of Pent Dual core as that isn’t a true core plus you can find a Duo 2 Core at 1.86 as well on ebay if you look.

This link should give you a idea of the CPU your looking at…

[SIZE=1][B][U]Celeron M[/U][/B]

[I]Merom-L[/I]

Celeron M 520 1600 1024 533
Celeron M 530 1733 1024 533
Celeron M 540 1866 1024 533
Celeron M 550 2000 1024 533
Celeron M 560 2133 1024 533
Celeron M 570 2266 1024 533 <------ There is your CPU

Celeron 575 2000 1024 667
Celeron 585 2167 1024 667

[I]Merom-2M[/I]

Celeron Dual-Core T1400 1733 512 533
Celeron Dual-Core T1500 1866 512 533

Celeron Dual-Core T1600 1666 1024 667
Celeron Dual-Core T1700 1833 1024 667

[I]Penryn-3M[/I]

Celeron Dual-Core T3000 1800 1024 800
Celeron Dual-Core T3100 1900 1024 800


#3

[QUOTE=shot00;2617960]Hi all!

So i have an HP-Compaq 610 with:
cpu: Intel Celeron M 570 @2.26GH -support: Socket 478 mPGA
motherboard: HP 308A, chipset: intel gme965
graphics: Mobile Intel® 965 Express Chipset family.(x3100)

So, i found a pentium T2390 Dual Core at 1.86Gh to upgrade. This pentium was in a laptop
with my same specs(chipset 965, x3100, same socket etc…).
Will this be a good upgrade choise? Will i have any problems installing it, or problems after installing it?
Also i am getting confused as i look things further and further.Some software reffers my socket as 479. Intel’s website reffers it as ppga478.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

The “Socket 479” is to distinguish between the Desktop socket 478 and the similar (but not compatible) notebook socket.

but what is really misleading is that there are two different non-compatible Notebook Socket 479’s

The “Socket P” and the “Socket M”,

the T2390 is a “Socket P” chip

The Celeron M 570 is also a “Socket P”

Is THIS:
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/13304_div/13304_div.PDF

Your computer?

IF so this “Quickspecs” page lists all of the factory installed CPU

And frankly if this page is right I wouldn’t bother upgrading to a “Meronm-2M” 533MHz FSB family CPU.

The “biggest and baddest” CPU that HP-Compaq built your model with was the T5870, but the Intel 965chipset supports virtually any 800MHz FSB Socket-P CPU

Personally I’d say screw it all and go shopping for one of the 800MHz FSB “Penryn” CPU’s like a T6500 which can be had (used on ebay)
fairly cheap… How does $12 shipped grab you?

or

Or how about a T8100 for $15?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SLAYP-INTEL-CORE-2-DUO-PROCESSOR-2-10-3M-800-T8100-/280801998673?pt=CPUs&hash=item41611a7751

I just upgraded my Dell Notebook from a T6400 to a T8300 and I’d offer you my T6400 ut it’s headed for my Aunt’s Compaq CQ60 whichhas a Celeron similar to yours.


#4

lucky you I get a T8300 as well but I have to buy for two laptop and two t8300 cost a bit for me and I would go either for a t6570 would be less trouble for my funds…


#5

[QUOTE=coolcolors;2617970]. But if you could get a Duo 2 Core instead of Pent Dual core as that isn’t a true core plus you can find a Duo 2 Core at 1.86 as well on ebay if you look.[/QUOTE]

Don’t confuse Notebook "or Desktop “Pentium Dual core” CPU’s
which are lower consumer level advertising names
with the earlier Pentium-D

The only material difference between a Pentium-Dual-Core CPU and a CPU labeled as a “Core 2 Duo” IS the label.

In desktop CPU’s you are still talking “Allendale/Conroe” on Socket 775 Desktop chips and on Socket P or M notebook chips we are still talking Merom-2M or one of the “Penryn” CPU’s.

a CPU that is labeled as a “C2D” will offer higher performance than one not but all ARE “True Dual-core” CPUs

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#6

I don’t think there is any confusion with mobile to desktop CPU as I was addressing the OP options on what mobile processor to use that was compatible with their laptop chipset that would work. The T2400 is only core dual not a true duo 2 core mobile processor. But if one follows the link I provide would be able to see where their chipset would fall and match for the laptop processor upgrade. From the specs model of their computer is a hp laptop using a mobile processor unless the number they identified is the wrong model number but the list looks like a laptop. And from a careful looks like there isn’t a way for the OP to go beyond Penryn-3M processor so they might work out for them if they wanted to go a duo core or even duo 2 core processor. My bad for not looking deeper at the list but that list was created from another user during their own experiences but it does provide a foundation to go off from and to find where the upgrades is possible.

Here a full list and where the OP processor falls into…

[B][U]Celeron M[/U][/B]

[I]Merom-L[/I]

Celeron M 520 1600 1024 533
Celeron M 530 1733 1024 533
Celeron M 540 1866 1024 533
Celeron M 550 2000 1024 533
Celeron M 560 2133 1024 533
Celeron M 570 2266 1024 533 <------ The OP processor

Celeron 575 2000 1024 667
Celeron 585 2167 1024 667

[I]Merom-2M[/I]

Celeron Dual-Core T1400 1733 512 533
Celeron Dual-Core T1500 1866 512 533

Celeron Dual-Core T1600 1666 1024 667
Celeron Dual-Core T1700 1833 1024 667

[I]Penryn-3M[/I]

Celeron Dual-Core T3000 1800 1024 800
Celeron Dual-Core T3100 1900 1024 800 <— seems the limit they can upgrade to

[I]Chipsets[/I]

GL960 533

GM965 533/667/800
PM965 533/667/800

GM45 533/667/800/1066
PM45 533/667/800/1066


#7

Thanks all for their information…
First i’m going to see if the T2390 works fine with my laptop
If i’ll see better performance than my celeron 570, i’ll keep it.
If not i’d go for a c2d.
but i’m afraid of putting penryn technology cause i think my laptop cant handle it(cpu fans,etc)- they 'll need more power than merom.
am i wrong? (i think t5870 would be a good choise)


#8

[QUOTE=shot00;2618376]Thanks all for their information…
First i’m going to see if the T2390 works fine with my laptop
If i’ll see better performance than my celeron 570, i’ll keep it.
If not i’d go for a c2d.
but i’m afraid of putting penryn technology cause i think my laptop cant handle it(cpu fans,etc)- they 'll need more power than merom.
am i wrong? (i think t5870 would be a good choise)[/QUOTE]

I don’t know for sure but I do know my Dell 1525 had a 2.0 celeron and I was able to put a T9300 into it and it worked just fine. But unfotunately that T9300 is no in my Gateway FX and the dell has a T5750 . But if you could instead for a dual 2 core if you can get one and try that first. But as the prior link I posted and used it as a reference to see where your chipset falls into and that also tells you what the CPU is compatible as well but that list is what I used to find my CPU purchase. But if your chipset does allow I would say go for a core 2 duo mobile processor that would give you a better return for your CPU upgrade investment. As for needing more power if those are the same matching architecture it should work on with your system. Just that when you replace the CPU make sure you use something like Silver thermal paste not the white thermal paste to insure you have good contact and heat transfer.


#9

Just I thought I leave some info…

I did upgrade of my Aspire 5315 to a T5550 processor and it worked. I will shortly here get a T6500 and put that in there and see if that works but my guess is that it will work. And the Aspire did come with a 1.7G Celeron as well and that was the same for my Dell 1525 2.1G Celeron as well. So it seem possible that chipset from the search didn’t mention that the Acer could go higher then Celeron Dual-Core so my experimentation did work here.


#10

Thanks for all coolcolors!
Now i’m on T2390-works just fine!
I’ll remember your informations on this thread in case i want to reupgrade my cpu into something like c2d. thanks again

cheers


#11

Next project will be switching to a T6500 since my T5555 worked but I will use a T5750 and most likely keep the Acer 5315 with the T5750…but it is good to just test a T6500 and see how it works.


#12

Well good and bad news… Dell 1525 won’t accept the T6500 but will take a T7500 so I guess there is limit. But I bought four T6500 cheap so I will keep them around still. Looks like the Dell can only accept a Socket P Merom Core 2 Duo T7000 series only and won’t take Penryn-2M series cpu. What a drag but at least I was able to put my T7500 into the Dell. Looks like it will stay with the T7500 and that will be the extend of the upgrade I can do for the Dell 1525 but I can live with 2.2Ghz. Now the test will be if my Gateway M6860 will take the T6500 but I will report that back when I do the switch and see what happens on power up.


#13

Well had to switched back to the T5750 cpu so I guess there is a limit so I do know sticking a T9300 did work in the Dell 1525 and as I heard other say the T8300 works as well but sounds like out of luck with T6500 maybe because of the CPU socket type doesn’t work.


#14

are you SURE the CPU you have that you have is a “T6500” IS a T6500?

SLGF4

a T6500 is a factory installed CPU and IS Socket-P

are you sure the T6500 you have is actually a good one?

My Dell 1525 was factory shipped with a T6400
(2.0GHz instead of the T6500’s 2.1GHz)

The T6500 is a "Penryn"
The T8300 (2.4GHz) I recently upgraded to is a “Penryn-3M”

It should be noted that I’ve had “issues” in the past upgrading a 1525 to a Faster CPU with earlier PC2-5300 memory.
I’ve also got a pair of Kingston Hyper-X PC2-6400 2Gb SIMMs that will not wotk with ANY 800MHz FSB CPU

But I’ve used my Dell 1525 to test a T6500 that was suspect in a customer’s HP notebook.


#15

[QUOTE=AllanDeGroot;2618979]are you SURE the CPU you have that you have is a “T6500” IS a T6500?

SLGF4

a T6500 is a factory installed CPU and IS Socket-P

are you sure the T6500 you have is actually a good one?

My Dell 1525 was factory shipped with a T6400
(2.0GHz instead of the T6500’s 2.1GHz)

The T6500 is a "Penryn"
The T8300 (2.4GHz) I recently upgraded to is a “Penryn-3M”

It should be noted that I’ve had “issues” in the past upgrading a 1525 to a Faster CPU with earlier PC2-5300 memory.
I’ve also got a pair of Kingston Hyper-X PC2-6400 2Gb SIMMs that will not wotk with ANY 800MHz FSB CPU

But I’ve used my Dell 1525 to test a T6500 that was suspect in a customer’s HP notebook.[/QUOTE]

I got four and tried all 4 in the 1525 and no boot and did the same with just two in gateway M6862 and no boot as well. It does say on the chip SLGF4. If that was the case how come a T5750 and T7500 and T9300 works? The T6500 falls between the T5750 and T7500.


#16

That’s weird, as I said my 1525 was factory built with a T6400 and I’ve run a T6500 (to test it for a customer’s “problem child” HP notebook)

The SLGF4 is a T6500… “Penryn”, but then again so is that T9300 you mention.

I’ve seen others that were T6500, dell was (and still is) kinda “what’s cheap this week?” on what CPU would go into a specific notebook. Not that whatever CPU they were building with was “Substandard” but…

The T8300 is also a “Penryn” (Working great in my 1525…)

I HAVE run into compatibility issues with some memory, certain SIMMs run forever in one notebook but refuse to boot in another, I’ve found that the best way to swap RAM into dell notebooks is one SIMM at a time, you swap both you get a no-boot
swap one, and then the other and all works fine, and there’s no technical reason
it should be so,

Hey, at least the CPU is easy to switch out on a 1525…

Here’s an odd suggestion for you…

Swap in the T2370 let it go through it’s startup routine,
load “Device driver” for the new CPU, reload the Dell Chipset driver
then go check yo see if you have the latest Bios (should be “A17”)

THEN try the T6500 arain.

I’ve actually got a Dell 1525 here that was originally built with a
T2370 and it’s currently running a T8300.

I even ran a T6400 in it for a week, So other than guessing
I really don’t know what else to suggest.


#17

Odd part is I couldn’t get to a boot screen on either laptop using T6500 but do know the T5750 was in the gateway and works in the Dell 1525 and my old Latitude T7500 works in the gateway M6862. So I guess I will be going the route of getting two T8300 cpu cost more but I can at least be sure they will work.


#18

Just to report back but if the OP socket is correct then they should be able to go T7500 as my Toshiba and Acer both are able to take and work with this processor so my next guess is since these processor fits in both my Gateway and Dell of which have T8100 and can go to T9300-T9500 cpu then this is a good fit. I found that for some odd reason T6500 processor has some incompatibilities in the architecture or design that is different enough that it won’t work.