^ Yes, but we think here, that these recent products are not the “superupconversion” hyped a few months ago- that would compete with HD players. The feature of the real Toshiba product that everyone was curious about, had a cell processor. So far- the XD-E500 player has been introduced and is a big ho-hum as it does not use the Cell proc. These TV’s are probably even a step down from the dissapoining player, or at best, the same tech which was not impressive in the least. So, I think the links you post are not representitive of what a consumer can expect. Unless, these came from the above mentioned TV’s. All this new TV is going to do is further confuse the public in a never ending barrage of unsubstantiated hype.