To NON-Britons: CAMBRIDGE/OXFORD university?

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#1

Hi everyone.

I just wanted to get some views on the views of some non-British people on whether or not Cambridge university has a good reputation outside england, and particularily the science subjects offered (and Oxford too if you have any views on Oxford and not Cambridge)

I ask because I am thinking of studying at Cambridge, but am not sure whether or not to study there and if so, which subject.

Thanks!


#2

You should know the subject you want to study before selecting the university


#3

I hear you can get good quality drugs on universities and Osama Bin Laden went to Oxford i believe.


#4

I hear you can get good quality drugs on universities
Do you speak out of personal experience? :frowning: :a

Anyway, what subjects do you have in mind? Which ones would you consider to study at all?
Oxford and Cambridge are well know for their dictionaries here, so I guess their lingual education to be good, but i don’t know about scientific subjects


#5

i have a general idea of what i want to study (physics or maths most probably) and my teachers always suggest cambridge, but i just wondered what cambridge’s reputation is internationally
(in th UK, most people consider cambridge to be the best for the sciences and engineering)


#6

Why ask the opinions of those outside the UK? Does this mean you are making a decision partly based on a judgment of the image of Oxbridge perceived internationally?
The public image of Camford is inflated compared to what they have to offer - this is partly because the image of a university is nowadays built on its abililty to secure massive research grants and thus a good reputation is a virtuous circle. Good research however inversely correlates with good undergraduate teaching, as you get less contact time with the senior staff, and are likely to be fobbed off with junior lecturers or even recent postgrads (very common at Oxford). Teaching is a low priority at both universities by comparison with other ‘real’ universities in the UK, and on all fronts (except perhaps more senior doctorate level crap) both places fall far short of Ivy-League standards in the US. In the sciences particularly there’s simply no comparison. We don’t have the funding and (hence) the talent over in the UK.
The only reason to go to OxCam is to endure it and graduate with an impressive looking CV - this is all that most undergraduates are interested in, and it creates a vicious circle of the university not taking interest in the students and the students getting more apathetic just riding out the system.
I don’t have any positive suggestions, by the way. There are far more enjoyable ways of spending 4 years getting into debt than slaving at these places. Ask yourself if you’re seriously academically committed to your subjects and if not, find somewhere where you will get taught better and gain more applicable skills for an eventual career.


#7

it weird you say that - 2 my teachers have been to cambridge and they seem to be very talented individuals (academically) and the replies to this thread for some reason seem to think i am going to blindly go to/reject cambridge because someone from the continent or whereever has said its a good/bad university.


#8

I am going to be attending college in the fall so this is still fresh. Over here the reputation is pretty good for those two colleges. I dont know anyone personally going there but one of my friends is going to the London School of Economics…


#9

From what I’ve heard (may or may not be true) Oxford is kinda boring and strict… Don’t know if that’s the case but I wouldn’t want to go to a boring university :slight_smile:
Dunno about Cambridge…
I think DryBaboon has a point when he says that the more they put on research the less is left for teaching…


#10

actually - at least in the us, the schools that secure the big research grants are the best for undergraduates. while you dont get a lot of 1:1 work with profs - you have access to great labs. and for the sciences / engineering - you can only learn so much from books.

ivy league often corresponds to small class sizes and large payments. oh, and poor sciences / engineering facilities.

here is a ranking of US grad schools for engineerings:

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/grad/rankings/eng/brief/engrank_brief.php

here is undergrad rankings

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/engineering/phd/topprogs_withphd_brief.php

here - at my school (U of Illinois, urbana champaign) - we have a huge research area. and in my major, despite the large early class sizes, the placement rate for getting a job(if you arent going to grad school) is somewhere over 99 %.

i guess what im saying, is shueb should come here :smiley:


#11

As said above IF U CAN go to ivy league in the States.

As for your two teachers who went to Cambridge being clever they were clever before they went (unless U have loadsa dosh) it aint easy to get accepted in the Oxbridge uni’s.

but as stated a good hons degree from Oxbridge certainly looks good on the CV.:slight_smile:


#12

For a simple answer to your question: Both are well regarded in Australia at least, but mostly for linguistics.


#13

Originally posted by hypnotik
For a simple answer to your question: Both are well regarded in Australia at least, but mostly for linguistics.
Thanks - this is the kind of direct answer I was looking for, not personal attacks on me for choosing whether or not to go to oxbridge based on a forum poll (which is not what I am doing)

Interesting that the reputation is mostly for linguistics down under. Cheers again hypnotik and most other replyee’s.


#14

There’s only one university, the KUL, ain’t it so, Wannez? :slight_smile:

But apart from that, both are regarded rather high here in Belgium. Personnaly I prefer Oxford, the link with Inspector Morse, hehe :wink:


#15

I have noticed that oxford seems to have a generally high reputation than cambridge, probably because it is older (and Cambridge uni was made from some Oxford breakaway intellects)


#16

Originally posted by shuebhussain
i have a general idea of what i want to study (physics or maths most probably) and my teachers always suggest cambridge, but i just wondered what cambridge’s reputation is internationally
(in th UK, most people consider cambridge to be the best for the sciences and engineering)

Imperial is much better for engineering - more practical and less theoretical degree, more specialised so you don’t become a Jack of All Trades and Master of None (c.f. Cambridge’s ‘general engineering’ system for all fields before specialising), better industrial ties. For science or arts, then its Cambridge or Oxford. I speak from first hand experience.