Hey Kerry, thnx ey and soz bout you kn0w what. Anyhow, I have a vob converter, I need some advice, my buddy borowed me his guitar dvd, first time I tried to copy it, I got errors & read errors, so I went to my local dvd shop to buff the disc, & even after paying then to buff away the scratches, I stil couldn't copy it for myself. Will dvdfab work? Coz ri4m and decrypter dnt work, n0t even shrink or anydvd, and I als0 have a vcd with my fav music vids on it, I got it from my brother but could only back up like 3 music vids, think someth!ng realy wrong with that dics coz when I insert it into the drive autoplay opens after like a massive strugle reading the disc, and then when I click on open folder to view files it opens a new window but its brank and when I direct the m0use pointer to the drive it shows the cd is empty, what can the problem be & and how can I retrieve that music vids from the disc? Hope you can help with that one.