Awesome. Ripping Gladiator now!
Sweet jeebus the extended cut is almost 80GB.
Braveheart and Saving Private Ryan are also about the same size. Stressing the 'ol NAS
i’m a little worried as early on the Asus drive was making that sound that indicates to me it is having problems reading the disc. Have the other two drives just in case and so far so good.
I think this particular drive may have some issues with triple layer…
My NS60 flat out won’t load it. My NS40 is definitely struggling.
Edit: Yeah, this has poor duplication written all over it…
It took the Asus BW-16D1HT over 2 mins to present the list of titles to rip in MakeMKV. I suspect it’s due to the significant amount of seamless branching that is used between the theatrical and extended cuts. They vary by almost 30 mins in time.
But so far so good.
Both my drives choked on it. Hmmm, may need to source a replacement copy…
Edit: After a thorough cleaning of the disc the NS40 is acting better with it. The NS60 just refuses.
Amazing how problematic these things can be. I suspect that UHD investment by the studios from a manufacturing perspective is being done on the cheap. It’s going to be the last mass-consumer physical media format and I think right now they are just milking those of us who will re-buy everything
Could be a good thing. When the inevitable 8K format appears, it may be like the Laser Disc days where we had some truly special editions, released by Criterion and others, costing $100+ per title. Far less titles, but more the titles we would want to own as special editions.
From a manufacturing perspective most duplicators have simply retrofitted existing equipment to produce discs. That was intentional from the beginning to keep costs lower unlike the DVD to Blu-ray transition. Despite the move to triple layer for titles (such as Braveheart, Gladiator, and SPR most recently) which allows for less tolerance, the actual QC spec for the discs appears to have stayed the same as their standard BD counterparts. It is definitely frustrating to say the least, but as you pointed out this very well could be the last ‘hoorah’ in physical media for the studios so playing the ‘good enough’ game may be all they are after. Fact is, those of us who are deep into the hobby are buying it regardless of the issues.
Edit: I am seeing AV sync issues in MakeMKV with Gladiator. Are you?
It just finished. Not a single error reported by MakeMKV. I’m going to watch it this weekend - it’s been a long while and this is one in my “top 10” best. Will see how the rip holds up. Hopefully no audio dropouts, but this is DTS, not Dolby Atmos.
I think you may have a bum disc.
Saving 1 titles into directory T:/RAIDMain/Movies
Forced subtitles track #3 turned out to be empty and was removed from output file
Forced subtitles track #5 turned out to be empty and was removed from output file
1 titles saved
Do you have AV Sync error reporting turned on in MakeMKV?
No - seems I had that enabled on my Mac version of MakeMKV but not the Windows version. Just turned it on. Will be interesting then to see this weekend how well the rip holds up
ON a separate note, looks like my Hunger Games Catching Fire disc is bad. Two drives report errors via MakeMKV and while it’s not ripping, it’s struggling to do so. Will probably send it back to Amazon for a replacement…
I checked my copy and despite the AV sync issues reported the playback at those spots appear fine. Usually if they are under 100ms they don’t present a problem and in this case none of them were. Most often they are attributed to mastering problems and I am sure they could be a result of the extensive seamless branching on this title.
Sorry to hear about Catching Fire. I didn’t have any issues with my HG discs, but at this point I think it is just luck.
It’s ripping albeit slowly. Now that I have AV Sync Error (re)enabled - HG is reporting at least one so far, .666ms.
I used to have that enabled. perhaps installing updates on Windows to MakeMKV reverted it. In any case, of the 4K rips I have watched, can’t say I’ve noticed issues. Sadly I’ve maybe watched 25-30% of what I’ve ripped so far. Find me some time!
You are doing better than I am in terms of percentage complete of owned to watched discs. Of the 275 I have now I have probably watched 10… maybe…
I have the NS40 and had no issues ripping Gladiator and Braveheart. I do remember similar issues like
the ones @TheShoe has, when I had the drive connected with a USB enclosure, I then switched to a cheap 30€ RAID Controler (4 Port) and got the drive there, no issues. Doesn’t make any sense I know…but well…here we are
Gladiator took 3 tries for me on an NS40.
- Hash check failed.
- Failed to load content hash table.
So far for me, Gladiator, Braveheart, Die Hard have all ripped fine. I’ve been putting some time on the NS40 (firmware 1.02) to give the Asus a break.
Someone somewhere stated they had issues over USB but not over SATA. I had that same problem way back in the early DeUHD days, but never again. That was an OLD PC isolated from my network, USB 2, that I was using because I was concerned DeUHD was some trojan/malware.
We are quite fortunate that these drive manufacturers supported BDXL well in advance of UHD.
Replacement copy of Braveheart ripped fine. But it took a LONG time…
Like ~2hrs or so… first disc that took anywhere near that long.
i now have two of the Hunger Games movies that refuse to load by any drive i use. replacing them today.
i should pop them in to the Oppo 203 and see if they even play…