This is driving me nuts, please help. (slow CD burning, different colors on disc)

vbimport
#1

Hello

I got DVR108 OEM from newegg.com. The drive was sort of slow when copying audio CDs (DMA enabled, 80 pin cable used) from my Asus DVD-E616P2 drive, especially the lead-in seemed to take forever (good media from Fuji Film and TDK were used). On top of it, the burned CDs have a 3 distinct zones on the recording side after burning. First there is a zone that is light in color, then there is a an area that is much darker and then it goes back to light (so it looks like a dark halo on the recording surface).

I used the Nero testing software and when testing recording, there where 2 big drops in the speed, the graph looks like the drive almost stops. My guess is that the first drop is the beginning of the dark halo and the second drop is the end of it (halo starts about 1/3 into the disk and the first drop was about at 26th minute on the disk content).
This happens with various recording software and and on various brands of media. DVD burning does not show this symptoms, only CD burning.

Now, I know that new 1.18 firmware is supposed to fix the haloing (as Pioneer calls it) but after flashing my drive still produces halos on audio CDs, even though the flash utility announces that the flash was successful and the drive is being recognized as 1.18. The update seems to have shorten the lead-in writing time but my audio CDs still look weird after burning.
Is my DVR108 broken?

Thanks a lot for any help.

GL

#2

Hi,

Try reading this http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=120168

It sounds similar to the “zoning” that happens with DVDs especially above 6x…

Regards…

#3

Thank you, Merlin.

My DVDs are OK, even at high speeds. The CDs come out “zoned” even on low speed burns.

And 1.18 FW was supposed to fix it but it did not. So that link is not much help :-(.

Bad, bad Pioneer.

GL

#4

Will try an to burn an audio CD at low speed as well, and I’ll let you know the results…

Can you post a copy of the graph results you had with Nero and also tell me the burn speed please.

Regards

#5

Merlin

Could you give some time to post the info you need? I am crazy busy at work and will not have time to do more testing until Sunday. But thanks a lot for trying to help put.

GL

#6

OK, it turned out to be easier than I thouht.

Here is the screen-shot from Nero.

The burn speed was set to 32.

GL


#7

The drive uses Z-CLV, see your screenshot.

#8

Chef

I know, I know. But that “halo” on the recording side of a CD really bothers me. Pioneer says that FW 1.18 is supposed to fix that, so I flashed with “Success” message at the end but my Audio CDs still come out “haloed”. The CD still plays OK but I just hate it when something is not working the way someone has promised it would.

My question is whether Pioneer goofed up on the FW update or is my drive broken? Do I write Pioneer about faulty FW or contact newegg to replace my drive? Is there anyone else experiencing this?

#9

Ive nevseen that on any firmware form 1.06 to 1.18.

A girl i knew had my old teac 40x16x40 cdrw and it was newish when i sold her and few months later it did same, calibrations errors in nero and disc lookes funny to look at with all different colours, the drive had to be rma’d but she got new 52x24x52 back.

#10

Just thought I’d show you my results. They are practically identical to yours. :iagree:

I had the same results as you, but could not see any visible “zoning” on the CD-R, only of DVD’s do I get visible “zoning”.

My audio CD-Rs seem to play ok, without any skipping, etc.

cd speed.JPG957x613 66.6 KB

#11

The drive is practically new, just bought it about two months ago. I do not remember the firmware revision it came with and I cannot recall if it was “haloing” the audio CDs because at that time I was busy authoring and burning DVDs. Then I upgraded 1.14 and started burning CDs and that is when I noticed the halo. And a few weeks ago 1.18 came put that is supposed to fix halo but it still shows.

Oh, well. Pioneer goes back to newegg. Or I just use it for DVDs and get a CD burner just for CDs.

What CD burnings drives would you recommend?

And if I decide to ditch that DVR108, what else should I consider? Sony seems to be getting favourable reviews as well as NEC. Are they any good?

#12

CD Burning Drive - I like an LG a lot - there 523252 is good. Also you could try the BenQ CD Writer. Neither should cost too much

I sometimes get soning marks on DVD’s tho - never seen on a CD.

#13

If you want a separate CD burner, then I don’t think you would go far wrong with a well known make.

I bought an Artec one, but found it a bit fussy with certain cheap media (bulkpaq).

Try a reputable make of CD burner and you should be okay.

Regards…

#14

Here is one of the better CD writers:

I use an older, but similar model and have had excellent results with burn quality and media compatibility.

You may end up with a rebadged Lite-ON if you buy Sony. Haloing on CD’s would be the least of your worries if that happens. Ironically it’ll probably burn CD’s well and nothing else.

#15

in My Laptop My Pioneer Dvd-rw Dvr-k12ra Is Behaving Strangly. I Had A Virus Thru Lan Connection From Another Laptop. Since Then My Laptop Has A Problem. I Have Fully Erased & Formatted Using Pm 8.0 But I Am Not Happy.
My Dvd-rw Detects & Reads Both Cd & Dvd But Takes Time As If A Virus Is Controlling It. Then If I Burn A Dvd Or Cd Sometimes It Shows Fully Burnt Sucessfully. But When I Chk The Disk It Shows Disk Currupt Or Bad. So I Tried All Disk Types & If I Burn Say 100mb On A Cdrw It Is Working But If I Try To Burn Full Dvd Or Even Cdrw It Doesnt Show Any Thing Even Says Disk Is Empty Even After Sucessfully Burning. Plz Do Help I Have Lot Od Data To B Put On Dvd. I Dont Want To Waste Dvds.

#16

Stop cross posting dude…

#17

Should that be some kind of english??
I see nothing similar to this thread…

#18

help!help!help!

dear peopz,
i have an acer travelmate 663LMi with a DVD - R/RW CD-R/RW combo.
after i noticed my drive had problems reading data dvd’s, i proceeded with a firmware update using the following ‘DVR-K12 v1.10 RPC-1 + 2xDVD-R + 12xRip’. although the drive was flashed sucessfully i have problems burning using the latest nero (already waisted 5 CD-R’s so far!!!). i desperately want to burn an iso file in nero, but get the following when the burn process is complete ‘burn process failed - could not perform fixation…’. i do use the burn image to disc option in nero, so guess that i am not wrong there. i also used another burnprogram, same problem!!!Sad

any help would be very much appreciated Wink

thanks in advance…looking foward to your advice

as i’ve noticed in other forums, the nero log file might give you a first indication of what’s faulty…unfortunately this is like chinese to me.

here it is:

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File ‘Wnaspi32.dll’: Ver=4.60 (1021), size=45056 bytes, created 10/09/1999 12:06:00
ahead WinASPI: File ‘C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll’: Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 02/11/2004 12:54:32

NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 7.0.1.2
Internal Version: 7, 0, 1, 2

Recorder: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D>Version: 1.10 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.1.2
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2000kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM >Version: 2.7a - HA 1 TA 1 - 7.0.1.2
Adapter driver: <SCSI> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : ST94011A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM 2.7a vax347s Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D E: CDRom0
SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM F: CDRom1

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 72351744 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 494MB (506288kB)
Free physical memory: 129MB (132560kB)
Memory in use : 73 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

7.12.2005
CD Image
08:19:42 #1 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3008
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D
Buffer underrun protection activated

08:19:42 #2 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 525
ReadBuffer-Pipe got 70656KB of Memory

08:19:42 #3 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124
Reader running

08:19:42 #4 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 113
Writer E: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D running

08:19:42 #5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3302
Turn on Track-At-Once, using CD-R/RW media

08:20:15 #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 279
Last possible write address on media: 359844 ( 79:59.69)
Last address to be written: 262270 ( 58:18.70)

08:20:15 #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 291
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

08:20:15 #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2578
Recorder: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D

08:20:15 #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 458
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<

Insert the disc to write to.
(Medium in drive: Unknown. Medium required by compilation: CD-R/RW.)

08:20:15 #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (2 - CD-ROM Mode 1, Joliet)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 262271 (262271) = #262271/58:16.71
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 262269 blocks [E: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D]

08:20:15 #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059
Prepare recorder [E: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D] for write in TAO
DAO infos:

MCN: “”
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc not fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 307200 537438208, ISRC “”
DAO layout:

Start|Track|Idx|CtrlAdr|RecDep_____
-150 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
-150 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
262271 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

08:20:15 #12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1127
Removed 2 run-out blocks from end of track 1. Length: 262271 -> 262269.

08:20:15 #13 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 36
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

08:20:15 #14 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
Caching of files started

08:20:15 #15 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4132
Cache writing successful.

08:20:15 #16 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
Caching of files completed

08:20:15 #17 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
Burn process started at 8x (1,200 KB/s)

08:20:15 #18 SPTI -1189 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 323
E: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1189)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x30
Sense Qual: 0x02
CDB Data: 0xAD 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF 40 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0E 00 00 00 00 30 02
Buffer x04d36e00: Len x4000

08:20:15 #19 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, no disc pos, patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

08:20:15 #20 Text 0 File MMC.cpp, Line 21611
Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON

08:20:19 #21 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1197
08:20:19.235 - E: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D : Queue again later

08:20:23 #22 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1197
08:20:23.381 - E: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D : Queue again later

08:20:23 #23 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1197
08:20:23.782 - E: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D : Queue again later

08:20:23 #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1197
08:20:23.832 - E: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D : Queue again later

08:20:23 #25 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1197
08:20:23.882 - E: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D : Queue again later

08:20:23 #26 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1197
08:20:23.942 - E: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D : Queue again later

08:20:23 #27 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1197
08:20:23.992 - E: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D : Queue again later

08:20:24 #28 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1197
08:20:24.042 - E: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D : Queue again later

08:20:24 #29 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1197
08:20:24.102 - E: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D : Queue again later

08:20:24 #30 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1197
08:20:24.152 - E: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D : Queue again later

08:20:24 #31 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1197
08:20:24.202 - E: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D : Queue again later

08:20:24 #32 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1197
08:20:24.262 - E: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D : Queue again later

08:20:24 #33 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1197
08:20:24.313 - E: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D : Queue again later

08:20:24 #34 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1197
08:20:24.363 - E: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D : Queue again later

08:20:24 #35 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1197
08:20:24.423 - E: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D : Queue again later

08:27:40 #36 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

08:27:49 #37 Text 0 File MMC.cpp, Line 16379
<PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D> start Close Session

08:27:53 #38 SPTI -1061 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 323
E: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1061)
Sense Key: 0x04 (KEY_HARDWARE_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x44
Sense Qual: 0xD6
CDB Data: 0x51 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x71 00 04 00 00 00 00 0E 00 00 00 00 44 D6
Buffer x04c7f800: Len x20

08:27:53 #39 CDR -1061 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1308
Internal target failure
E: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D

08:27:53 #40 TRANSFER -19 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1308
Could not perform Fixation

08:27:54 #41 Text 0 File MMC.cpp, Line 16379
<PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D> start Close Session

08:27:58 #42 SPTI -1061 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 323
E: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1061)
Sense Key: 0x04 (KEY_HARDWARE_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x44
Sense Qual: 0xD6
CDB Data: 0x51 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x71 00 04 00 00 00 00 0E 00 00 00 00 44 D6
Buffer x04c7f800: Len x20

08:27:58 #43 CDR -1061 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1308
Internal target failure
E: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D

08:27:58 #44 TRANSFER -19 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1308
Could not perform Fixation

08:27:58 #45 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
Burn process failed at 8x (1,200 KB/s)

Existing drivers:
File ‘Drivers\ASPI32.SYS’: Ver=4.60 (1021), size=25244 bytes, created 10/09/1999 12:06:00
File ‘Drivers\scsiport.sys’: Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=96256 bytes, created 04/08/2004 06:59:42 (Adapter driver for src)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Sec