The upcoming 18x TSST SH-S182D/TS-H652 DVD burner

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#1

Some new information on Toshiba-Samsung SH-S182D a.k.a. TS-H652.

The drive is a new, refreshed design, not just a firmware-based improvement.

It is going to use a new optical pickup from Sony with a higher-power (27 mW) Sharp laser diode, and a new, faster spindle motor from either Samsung itself or Nidec Japan. Because of the faster motor, power consumption will go up by 2-3 Watts, or about 0.2 A on the 12V line.

This drive is currently promised to be available for sale in June. We’ll see.

DVD burn times are sub-five minutes, so it should beat the current records held by 16x Hitachi-LG Renesas drives by a good 20+ seconds. Its 18x times should also be almost a minute faster than Plextor PX-760A’s 18x times.

I will be buying one of these!


#2

Yay, real innovation, which is rare nowadays, most drives are the same old 16x models with new firmware for 8x or 10x double layer burning and a new name/model number. But there are still some open questions :slight_smile:

  • Did Samsung fix the CD laser issues?
  • Is the quality of the burns good?
  • Does it do 12x DVD-RAM? (EDIT: According to Google, it does, and Panasonic and NEC are going to introduce 12x DVD-RAM drives too :clap: )
  • Does this drive scan?

If the answer is yes to at least some of the answers :smiley: then I might buy it too.


#3

They should better fix the problems with their current DVD writers.
A 18x DVD writer? No one really needs that. … … … .


#4

Hm, i like the 163 SATA version more.


#5

Excellent news. Very nice to hear about Sony parts being used in the new drives. I’ll probably be picking one of these up myself.

Samsung drives just ooze quality. :slight_smile:


#6

Whats the difference between this drive and the TS-H652L? My PC came with the suffix L drive. I cant find any infos or firmware for this drive.

Edit: L stands for Lightscribe as this drive supports Lightscribe. but it doesnt support 18X burn; uploaded an updated version of Nero Infotool



#7

What country are you in?

You are right about 16x, maybe the Toshiba half of TSST had second thoughts about 18x.


#8

I live in CA. The PC I got is an HP M7467C media center PC from Costco. I mainly bought it b/c it came with an 21" LCD screen at 1650X1050 1000:1 contrast. This is my first prebuilt PC. It sucks b/c all firmwares are supported only by HP. I had to re-pack the PC and monitor, drove 10 miles to costco and exchange it at costco all because the original BIOS was corrupted. I talked to PH tech support and they will not send me a BIOS to flash. They told me that ONLY HP or authorized repair center can flash the BIOS. They told me to send them the PC. I told them I aint gonna pay $50 shipping just for you to flash the BIOS.
Anyway back to the DVD Drive. I dont use the Samsung much b/c I have an NEC ND4570A. The NEC burns 8X DVD-R TYG02 at 12X and 8X DVD+RW in 7:35. Thats only 25 seconds shy of 12X.
The Samsung burn 16X media in 5:50, NEC at 16X in 6:15. My old NEC ND3500A burns the same TYG02 8X rated at 16X in 5:55-6:00. The 652L is pretty quiet compare to the ND4570A
I miss my 3500 b/c it burns 12X in 6:40 compared to the 652L and 4570A at 7:05-7:10
I loaded the Nero CD-DVD Speed 4.50 with the samsung drive selected but the start button is garyed out. Does this mean this drive doesnt support disc quality scan?


#9

There are also TS-H652S TS-H652D TS-H652L TS-H652A whats the difference between them? I know that L is for lightscribe and A, according to videohelp is the none lightscribe version. S possibly SATA? whats D? that it requires deisel?


#10

lol, hey, that’s the k. :bigsmile:

diesel power(ed)


#11

It is disabled in Nero CD-DVD speed. You’ll have to edit your registry to enable disc scanning with Nero CD/DVD speed. Instructions how to do that can be found in the SH-W162 review thread.
You can also use Kprobe for disc scanning.
Just a note: My SH-W163A is not able to scan CD-media with Kprobe or Nero CD/DVD speed. Scanning DVD-Media works.

Michael


#12

i have an issue with this drive ts-h652L it says it is lightscribe but none of the lightscribe programs sees the drive as being installed

also my-computer shows the drive as a cd-drive instead of the regular dvd-rw

any thoughts
please help


#13

Make sure the Lightscribe Host-Software is installed.

also my-computer shows the drive as a cd-drive instead of the regular dvd-rw

any thoughts
please help

This is only a explorer glitch, m$ would call it feature.
Ignore it, open up Devicemanager and you will see the correct info about your drive.


#14

i installed all software off of the hp and lightscribe websites and nothing would see it


#15

I bought a Mad Dog Megastor 18x from CompUSA.
The sticker on the drive says DVD Writer Model TS-H652D/MDNH F/W=MD00 H/W:A Ver.D October 2006.
I currently have a NEC ND-3500-AG with F/W = 2.TF Besides having the ability to read RAM discs, is this Mad Dog Toshiba Model better than mine or can I give it as a gift for someone? raulyn @ gmail. com


#16

Finally, I found this post. I always remember there was a post saying this sammy will use components that needs more power whenever I see people have PSU issue with this drive, but I just can’t find it.

From agent009:

  1. “It is going to use a new optical pickup from Sony with a higher-power (27 mW) Sharp laser diode”

  2. “a new, faster spindle motor from either Samsung itself or Nidec Japan. Because of the faster motor, power consumption will go up by 2-3 Watts, or about 0.2 A on the 12V line.”

So, that’s clear why the Samsung SH-S182D (or newer drives) needs a good power supply or more power. Perhaps too, the higher-power Sharp laser diode is the secret weapon that this drive read scratched discs very well… :rolleyes:

Edit: Yeah, found more info from Jan’s post: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=1550448&postcount=13


#17

My friend has a TS H652 but it’s an OEM to LiteOn 832s with VS0M firmware… Is this the same writer ??



#18

Nope, the Litey 832 is an oldish one.