The ultimate Ultra HD Blu-ray 'friendly' drive list - with recommendation of best


#81

Roger and thanks.

Just was looking for clarification and I suspected this as a possibility. I’ve been writing about this in different locations and not all of what I was thinking went to all places. Kept it more simple & concise here. Honestly, surprised that the firmware wasn’t encrypted before. I believe Pioneer has been doing it for a long time. With the move to BD and now UHD I would have expected encrypting to become the norm.


#82

I would have thought so as well, but Asus has always been the rebel…


#83

I bought 3 drives at Fry’s yesterday which turned out to all be UHD friendly as I expected.

However, the LG drives are ripping UHD discs at an average of only 4X, whereas the ASUS is ripping at 6X average. I ripped the exact same disc of Blade Runner Final Cut 4K to a local SSD on each drive with IMGBURN and got the following times:

LG WH16NS40 (1.02) :

I 22:50:39 Source Device: [0:0:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE WH16NS40 1.02 (E:) (SATA)
I 22:50:40 Source Media Size: 59,833,647,104 bytes
I 23:41:03 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:50:18
I 23:41:03 Average Read Rate: 19,360 KiB/s (4.4x) - Maximum Read Rate: 26,431 KiB/s (6.0x)

LG BH16NS40 (1.02) :

I 23:49:29 Source Device: [0:0:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH16NS40 1.02 (G:) (SATA)
I 23:49:29 Source Media Size: 59,833,647,104 bytes
I 00:40:01 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:50:26
I 00:40:01 Average Read Rate: 19,309 KiB/s (4.4x) - Maximum Read Rate: 26,360 KiB/s (6.0x)

ASUS BW-16D1HT (3.02) :

I 01:08:37 Source Device: [0:0:0] ASUS BW-16D1HT 3.02 (F:) (SATA)
I 01:08:37 Source Media Size: 59,833,647,104 bytes
I 01:46:39 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:37:55
I 01:46:39 Average Read Rate: 25,684 KiB/s (5.9x) - Maximum Read Rate: 34,941 KiB/s (8.0x)

As you can see, the LG drives take about 50 minutes for the tip, whereas the Asus takes only about 38 minutes - a significant difference.

All the google searches I have done online tell me that the LG drives are not supposed to be riplocked. I read something in reference to “quiet mode”, and wonder if that is what is keeping the speed down on them.
Supposedly, the ASUS and LG BH16NS40 are the same hardware with different firmware …

Is there a utility that can fix the speed for the LG drives ? Can I cross flash Asus firmware to the LG drive ? And if so how ?

Good old Mediacodespeededit doesn’t seem to work on the firmware for any of these drives.

I may return the 2 LG drives and exchange for Asus if I can’t fix the ripping speed.


#84

I’ve cross flashed both my LG Branded BH16NS55 drives with the ASUS BH-16D1HT 3.02 Firmware. Both now get “full” speed for ripping without any issues. The same flasher should also work on the BH16NS40 and can revert it to stock. The tool I used was from here and includes various firmware. The ASUS_BW-16D1HT_302.BIN file is not part of this and while I can not remember where I got it from but I’ve uploaded it here.


#85

Am I correct that after reading this I’ve come to the conclusion my WH16NS40, dated 2015-05-14 and marked SVC 40 wont work?


#86

It will not. Must be a SVC NS50 drive.


#88

Thank you!


#89

Is this process still working as of right now to rip ultra hds with AnyDvd?


#90

Not entirely sure as to the process you are referring to, but AnyDVD will still rip UHD discs with a ‘friendly’ drive. Only DeUHD is compromised at this time with the latest Win10 patches.


#91

Yes, that is what I meant. I only just stumbled upon this thread and before I jumped into buying a compatible drive I wanted to make sure


#92

Please be aware that firmware versions matter. By this time there is a very real chance that LG and ASUS have closed the loop on sell through of older models. Newer firmware will require a downgrade.


#93

Last week I picked up a Asus BW-16D1HT with Firmware 3.02 from Amazon that would not work for UHD. All the programs said I needed a Friendly Drive. I tried several different methods that I read about but nothings seemed to work, then, I used DosFlash32_BH16NS40 and BH16NS40_EEPROM_Data_Mover to create and flash a new Firmware. It worked great, drive is now friendly and working great. It has completed a good number of disc now.


#94

Does anyone know if there is a friendly slim slot load drive that works?


#95

same experience for me on a third drive i just bought. worked for me - dumping/merging 3.02 and 3.01, then writing 3.01 back to the drive.

what a process though! i think three capable drives for me is enough now :slight_smile: two Asus and one LG. only once have I had a disc that would not backup from the Asus but did with the LG. Odd. Keeping the other two in safe storage


#96

Glad to hear it worked out for you. Mine has been working great and I now have everything moved over to my NAS. :slightly_smiling_face:


#97

Today I upgrade LG BH16NS58 to 1.01, it’s bad


#98

At this stage in the game why would anyone upgrade the firmware on a drive they are using to rip UHD discs with? If it works, why roll the dice?


#99

Yup. I learned that lesson on the first official UHD drive the hard way. And frankly I knew better. May have been the Bourbon. Brownest of the brown! What’s that you say? upgrade firmware?? But I shouldn’t! :slight_smile:

Anyway yeah - i am taking same approach with Windows updates and Drivers. Unless it’s addressing an issue I am having, I won’t apply the updates. Sole reason for going to Windows 10 Pro was so I could stop the forced updates. So far so good.


#100

Isn’t the firmware from this one (BU30N) able to make the BU40N and BU50N friendly?

And what is the verdict with the BP60NB10 and BP50NB40 usb slim drives??