The output of DVDFab is weird - ex. on No Country for old men

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#1

I reported one threat before DVDFab 4.0.6.2. regarded to the output of DVDFab. After that, DVDFab 4.0.6.2 was out and handle with any kinds of protections very well. The output was so clean. So, I decided to give a shot at 4.1.0.2 when I saw it was out. Unfortunately, the issue came back to me again. I’ll show you what I taking about.

First of all. I bought a moive - No country for old men (Disney). I used the DVDFab 4.0.1.2 to back it up, and burnt it out with Imgburn. The process of backup and burning were successful. After all, I used Anydvd (Third-Party software) to check it out whether the output is clean or not.

The backup process was Full Disc with PathPlayer is enable (I’m pretty sure about that). The Playback were ok both of PC and TV DVD Player.

However, I’m still wondering why the output is weird. Does anyone have any idea?

  1. This is original DVD:

Summary for drive H: (AnyDVD 6.3.0.3)
SONY DVD RW DRU-720A JY08 DEC12 ,2005
Drive (Hardware) Region: 1

Media is a DVD.
Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 2 (opposite)
Size of first Layer: 1936592 sectors (3782 MBytes)
Total size: 3581578 sectors (6995 MBytes)

Video DVD (or CD) label: NOC0NNW1

Media is CSS protected!
Video Standard: NTSC
Media is locked to region(s): 1!

Warning: .Bup file location is wrong, .Bup Processing disabled
RCE protection not found.
Found & removed structural copy protection!
Found & removed invalid cell pieces!
Found & removed bogus title set(s)!
UDF filesystem patched!
Autorun not found on Video DVD.
Found & removed 9 potential bad sector protections!
Emulating RPC-2 drive with region 1!

  1. This is backup DVD:

Summary for drive H: (AnyDVD 6.3.0.3)
SONY DVD RW DRU-720A JY08 DEC12 ,2005
Drive (Hardware) Region: 1

Media is a DVD.
Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 2 (opposite)
Size of first Layer: 1932704 sectors (3774 MBytes)
Total size: 3570432 sectors (6973 MBytes)

Video DVD (or CD) label: NO_COUNTRY_FOR_OLD_MEN
Media is not CSS protected.
Video Standard: NTSC
Media is region free.

RCE protection not found.
Found & removed structural copy protection!
Found & removed invalid cell pieces!
Found & removed bogus title set(s)!
Autorun not found on Video DVD.
Found & removed 4 potential bad sector protections!
Emulating RPC-2 drive with region 1!


#2

If you use DVDFab disable anydvd. Dont use both at same time it can cause conflicts or wierd results


#3

I get the impression from what the [I]OP[/I] wrote that they were just comparing the results detected by [U]AnyDVD[/U] after making a backup with [U]DVDFab[/U]. It should be noted that their version of [U]AnyDVD[/U] is a bit dated. They’re still using v6.3.0.3 and the latest release is v6.3.1.7 [I]official[/I] or v6.3.1.8 [I]beta[/I]. The latest release may show different results but I can’t say for sure.

The real question is does the backup made with [U]DVDFab[/U] work w/o errors either when watched on your computer or using a standalone DVD player? If the answer is [I]“yes”[/I] then be happy. You have successfully backed up the disc.


#4

[QUOTE=DrinkLyeAndDie;2019960]I get the impression from what the [I]OP[/I] wrote that they were just comparing the results detected by [U]AnyDVD[/U] after making a backup with [U]DVDFab[/U]. It should be noted that their version of [U]AnyDVD[/U] is a bit dated. They’re still using v6.3.0.3 and the latest release is v6.3.1.7 [I]official[/I] or v6.3.1.8 [I]beta[/I]. The latest release may show different results but I can’t say for sure.

The real question is does the backup made with [U]DVDFab[/U] work w/o errors either when watched on your computer or using a standalone DVD player? If the answer is [I]“yes”[/I] then be happy. You have successfully backed up the disc.[/QUOTE]

Yes and just maybe running Anydvd in the background when using DVDFab,…which is a NO NO :rolleyes:


#5

I get the feeling that you should use one not the other, if you own Fab use it as intended, or dont buy it. Ofcourse once you buy it you can use it anyway you like, but dont complain if the output is not what you were looking for. Use Fab without AnyDVD , there is a popup that tells you so. If you choose to ignore that you wind up with files that might not be complaint or play correctly.


#6

Thanks for you all advises.

I’ve never ran DVDFab with Anydvd at the same time, and I’m not complaining the output of DVDFab because I love and appreicate the performance of DVDFab. I just wanna make sure of my backup which is perfect and nothing else.


#7

[QUOTE=StormJumper;2019981]Yes and just maybe running Anydvd in the background when using DVDFab,…which is a NO NO :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

That’s a given. :slight_smile: Sadly, however, some people never read and never learn. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=alan1476;2019983]I get the feeling that you should use one not the other, if you own Fab use it as intended, or dont buy it. Ofcourse once you buy it you can use it anyway you like, but dont complain if the output is not what you were looking for. Use Fab without AnyDVD , there is a popup that tells you so. If you choose to ignore that you wind up with files that might not be complaint or play correctly.[/QUOTE]

I fully agree here. Comparing the output from one product to another really doesn’t mean much. People could sit down and compare things and see how things are done differently but the normal user won’t really understand the differences. If the backup works then there’s no point in over-analyzing it. The best test to see if the backup works is to burn it [to a DVD RW if you like] and watch it.


#8

i would be the first person to recommend dvdfab. :clap:

there is a problem with the full disc output. http://club.cdfreaks.com/2019517-post23.html

i dont see a problem with comparing or using different programs. :slight_smile: i own a few myself.

here is the ifo screen for [U]main movie[/U] rip of No Country for Old Men, using dvfab 4102, pathplayer always enabled, burned with imgburn 2400.

  1. DVDFab Platinum

Info for drive [E:] (DVDFab Platinum 4.1.0.2)
Drive region: 1

Disc type: Video DVD
Disc region: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
Volume name: NOC0NNW1
Video standard: NTSC

CSS (Content Scramble System) protection is not found.
RC (Region Code) protection is not found.
RCE (Region Code Enhancement) protection is not found.
APS (Analog Protection System) protection is not found.
[B][I][U]UOPs (User Operation Prohobitions) protection is removed![/U][/I][/B]

Invalid PTTs protection is not found.
Invalid PGCIs protection is not found.
Invalid PGCs protection is not found.
Invalid TMAPs protection is not found.
Invalid CELLs protection is not found.
Invalid VOBUs protection is not found.
Fake vts protection is not found!
Bad sector protection is not found!
Structure protection (ARccOS, RipGuard, etc.) is not found.

PathPlayer is enabled!
Unplayable cell is not found.

  1. AnyDVD

Summary for drive E: (AnyDVD 6.3.1.7)
LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1P KL0N 2007/06/13 14:37
Drive (Hardware) Region: 1

Media is a DVD.
Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 1
Total size: 2201456 sectors (4299 MBytes)

Video DVD (or CD) label: NOC0NNW1
Media is not CSS protected.
Video Standard: NTSC
Media is region free.

RCE protection not found.
AI scan forced, heuristic scan detected no protection!
[B][I][U]Found & removed structural copy protection![/U][/I][/B]
Autorun not found on Video DVD.
Bad sector protection not found.
Emulating RPC-2 drive with region 1!


#9

anydvd has problems backing up movies on a vista PC. dvdfab platinum has no problems backing up movies on a vista PC and works with all dvd’s.


#10

:slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: i fully support dvdfab, in fact ive never even posted in the anydvd forum. :slight_smile:

this is not a deal if dvdfab or anydvd is better. :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: the original poster simply noticed something and wanted to report it. :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

lets not turn this into more than that. :bow:

:slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: we’ve went there before with compatibility with DVDSHRINK and we all know Fengtao’s stand on that one. :clap: :clap:


#11

Actually, there are another moive has the same issue - Dan in real life (Disney).
The output is weird either.

I don’t have vlc player, so I don’t know if opens files of backup with vlc whether crash or not.

This is only FYI, don’t take it personal to compare what is better between softwares.


#12

[QUOTE=Fancy;2019925]

  1. This is original DVD:

Summary for drive H: (AnyDVD 6.3.0.3)
SONY DVD RW DRU-720A JY08 DEC12 ,2005
Drive (Hardware) Region: 1

Media is a DVD.
Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 2 (opposite)
Size of first Layer: 1936592 sectors (3782 MBytes)
Total size: 3581578 sectors (6995 MBytes)

Video DVD (or CD) label: NOC0NNW1

Media is CSS protected!
Video Standard: NTSC
Media is locked to region(s): 1!

Warning: .Bup file location is wrong, .Bup Processing disabled
RCE protection not found.
Found & removed structural copy protection!
Found & removed invalid cell pieces!
Found & removed bogus title set(s)!
UDF filesystem patched!
Autorun not found on Video DVD.
Found & removed 9 potential bad sector protections!
Emulating RPC-2 drive with region 1![/QUOTE]
The reason I posted my first message was to point out that Fancy is using a vista OS and that is why the output looks weird.
[QUOTE=troy512;2020078]

  1. AnyDVD

Summary for drive E: (AnyDVD 6.3.1.7)
LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1P KL0N 2007/06/13 14:37
Drive (Hardware) Region: 1

Media is a DVD.
Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 1
Total size: 2201456 sectors (4299 MBytes)

Video DVD (or CD) label: NOC0NNW1
Media is not CSS protected.
Video Standard: NTSC
Media is region free.

RCE protection not found.
AI scan forced, heuristic scan detected no protection!
[B][I][U]Found & removed structural copy protection![/U][/I][/B]
Autorun not found on Video DVD.
Bad sector protection not found.
Emulating RPC-2 drive with region 1![/QUOTE]

Now troy512 is using a xp OS and that is why his output does not look weird. Sorry if I gave the wrong impression I just wanted to point that out and was not trying to say what program was better.


#13

:rolleyes: heres an old one. done with dvdfab :rolleyes: so its really not relevant. :disagree: :disagree: however i went though and check several and this seemed to be the worst of them.

  1. dvdinfo pro

CSS Protected No
Media code/Manufacturer ID TYG02
UDF Format Type V1.02
UDF Volume Name SILENT_HILL
UDF Application id
UDF Implementation id VSO Software
UDF Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy) [B][I][U]9/27/2006[/U][/I][/B] 20:30:32
Format Capacity 4.14GB(4.45GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R

  1. dvdfab

Info for drive [E:] (DVDFab Platinum 4.1.0.2)
Drive region: 1

Disc type: Video DVD
Disc region: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
Volume name: SILENT_HILL
Video standard: NTSC

CSS (Content Scramble System) protection is not found.
RC (Region Code) protection is not found.
RCE (Region Code Enhancement) protection is not found.
APS (Analog Protection System) protection is not found.
UOPs (User Operation Prohobitions) protection is not found.

Invalid PTTs protection is not found.
Invalid PGCIs protection is not found.
Invalid PGCs protection is not found.
Invalid TMAPs protection is not found.
[B][I][U]Invalid CELLs protection is removed!
Invalid VOBUs protection is removed![/U][/I][/B]
Fake vts protection is not found!
[B][I][U]Potential bad sector (vts:1 title begin:0 end:14418) is removed!
Potential bad sector (vts:1 title begin:1324173 end:1338645) is removed!
2 potential bad sector protections are removed!
Structure protection (ARccOS, RipGuard, etc.) is removed![/U][/I][/B]

PathPlayer is enabled!
Unplayable cell is not found.

  1. anydvd

Summary for drive E: (AnyDVD 6.3.1.7)
LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1P KL0N 2007/06/13 14:37
Drive (Hardware) Region: 1

Media is a DVD.
Booktype: dvd-r (version 5), Layers: 1
Total size: 2171984 sectors (4242 MBytes)

Video DVD (or CD) label: SILENT_HILL
Media is not CSS protected.
Video Standard: NTSC
Media is region free.

RCE protection not found.
[B][I][U]AI scan forced, heuristic scan detected RipGuard![/U][/I][/B]
[B][I][U]Found & removed structural copy protection!
Found & removed invalid cell pieces!
Found & removed invalid VOBUs!
UDF filesystem patched![/U][/I][/B]
Autorun not found on Video DVD.
[B][I][U]Found & removed 2 potential bad sector protections![/U][/I][/B]
Emulating RPC-2 drive with region 1!


#14

[QUOTE=GJ;2020130]anydvd has problems backing up movies on a vista PC. dvdfab platinum has no problems backing up movies on a vista PC and works with all dvd’s.[/QUOTE]

Just for clarification [U]No Country For Old Men[/U] is not one of the very small amount of movies that the [U]AnyDVD ripper[/U] has issues with when it comes to [U]Windows Vista[/U]. The protections removed in the status window shouldn’t differ between [U]XP[/U] and [U]Vista[/U].

I’m not here to promote [U]AnyDVD[/U] but I felt that I needed to comment. Anyway, this is my last post in this thread because I don’t wish to ruffle any feathers.