The inherent problem of Democracy

…came to at a soccer game the other day.

There are three reasons (That I could think of)

  1. The people who should be voting are the ones who don’t, and the ones who do are the ones who shouldn’t.

The ones who shouldn’t are the naive, unable to do math, and easily brainwashed. They are naive, because they don’t understand the way that politics works, unable to do math, since they should know that the probability of their vote making a difference is nill, and easily branwashed, since they all have the “voting is a good thing… It is not only my right, it is my duty…”, message ingrained into their heads.

  1. The only candidates are people who are so power-hungry that they willl spend millions, and use two years of their lives campaigning for the job.

  2. The voters have almost no free will. Since the advent of television, the taller candidate has won nearly 80% of the time. It’s not judged by opinions and ideas, but on looks.

Democracy is when two foxes and a rabbit vote what’s for dinner.

Of course it has its flaws.

If it’s all for the common good , we call it advertising.

If it’s all for the common good , we call it propaganda.

Think they didn’t learn from WW II ? :slight_smile:

the only thing wrong with democracy is stupid people have (can) to vote 2

Originally posted by cum-a-lot
the only thing wrong with democracy is stupid people have (can) to vote 2

But how do you determine which ones are the stupid ones. It isn’t as easy as it seems. Almost nothing is.

Originally posted by dansmug

But how do you determine which ones are the stupid ones. It isn’t as easy as it seems. Almost nothing is.

According to my theory, they are the only ones who vote.

How 'bout making it illegal for anyone who has voted in the past to vote, and forcing the rest to. Evil, but works. :wink:

OK so would you then ban all those who were previously forced to vote from voting along with all those who freely voted and then you would end up with everyone banned from voting?

Come to think of it not a bad idea, no one can vote so no one can be elected?

I think dicatorships work quite well :stuck_out_tongue:

OK so would you then ban all those who were previously forced to vote from voting along with all those who freely voted and then you would end up with everyone banned from voting?

The people forced to vote would have to until they either die or get old. ;-).

On the other hand, why not have the leaders of every country order its inhabitants to march into the ocean. Those smart enough to stay behind get to keep their stuff.

Originally posted by SirDavidGuy
According to my theory, they are the only ones who vote.

Then call me stupid. Voting is the only thing you’ve got to control partially what your government does. And although I often say it isn’t going very well with this world, even I must admit that things have become better for normal people since they could vote.

Democracy the way its working today is just a hoax, however there are no immediate better solutions...the best would probably be a kind of totallitary state where the people in charge have empathy and feel responsability...Just because alot of people agree doesent mean they are right…

I like your avtaar Wonderboy… :slight_smile:

Democracy it was a good system in ancient Athena, because there were 500 people who get together and vote one of them as their lider. But now when there are millions of people who can vote we need another system.

Originally posted by Bestiuta
Democracy it was a good system in ancient Athena, because there were 500 people who get together and vote one of them as their lider. But now when there are millions of people who can vote we need another system.

Hahahaha, I am waiting for suggestions. Let me give you the answer already, you’ll find none. Even with all its flaws, democracy is still the best system. :slight_smile:

Problem with all of you is that you think you are one of the good ones. But everybody thinks this. Think about that.

Originally posted by dansmug
[B]Even with all its flaws, democracy is still the best system. :slight_smile:

Problem with all of you is that you think you are one of the good ones. But everybody thinks this. Think about that. [/B]

I’ve thought about it.

It seems to me , that if i become global world leader and declare dicatorship , for me… that would be the best system. If it would be the best system in general is of course another question.

Problem with all of you is that you think you are one of the good ones

I didn’t say/think that. And democracy is an outdated system.

Originally posted by Bestiuta

I didn’t say/think that. And democracy is an outdated system.

How can democracy be outdated? The best form of government that would satisfy each person is a dictatorship where each person is the dictator. Unless you are the dictator you would always bitch about the government.

I think that most people that live in democratic countries are actualy taught to believe that democracy is the best political system!

If they weren’t taught of that , the system would collapse.

I’m not saying that democracy is a bad system , but in our days it’s totally controlled by technocrats who we think that they can decide about our future better than we can.

Maybe if democracy was differently implemented to our societies with people’s energetic partitipation , it would work better.

Wouldn’t it be better if we all participated to all the decisions that are being taken about our future?

Who’s the better one to decide a war against Iraq for example?
Bush (who is a muppet of the weapon and oil industry) or the people of the US?

Originally posted by The_Judas
or the people of the US?

I would have to say neither. Bush is a retard so lets just talk about Cheney. The people of the US arent as smart as you think, thats why when this government was being framed, provisions were set up to make sure that the typical, not too educated, blue-collar worker never got the chance to fully affect the government in any serious way.

No the best system is that in an old science fiction story called “A Ticket to Tranai”. Under the system used on that world, anyone who wanted to could become the supreme absolute ruler of the planet but was required to wear a special badge of office at all times.

Anyone who was dissatisfied with any decision of the supreme leader though could ring in to register his/her dissatisfaction and when a specified number of complaints had been reached, well the badge of office exploded taking off the head of that ruler.

A perfect system with total accountability. :wink: Now what could be better? :bigsmile:

What about a cell-based anarcho-syndacalist commune, similiar to an electoral college system, but where the issues brought up are decisions on what to vote on. Each proposal is then voted on by society as a whole. Given new technology, and the advent of the internet, this shouldn’t be too hard to accomplish.

the only reason you can say these things about bush and average american it’s because you DO live in a democracy.why don’t you try to go to some socialist or communist country and see if you like it there.for all of usa problems i don’t see anyone leaves-everyone wants to get in.admit it smart guy.