The difference between DVD-R and DVD+R

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#81

Where could I get this cstj firmware? Don’t know that I’d bother with it right now as I am quite happy using +r media, but it would be good to know how to get good -r burns on here if I ever want to. I’ve never done a firmware upgrade before.

Currently I’m using TDK dvd+r (CMCE01) with excellent PIF results. Most only go up to 2 and only the odd one up to 3. Nothing ever more then that. I’m having a bit of an odd time with the PI’s, but that is described in another thread.


#82

+RW lasts longer. :slight_smile:


#83

RW is not what i would put anything vauleable

i hate re writeable media


#84

@ForeverLearning

well the cstj is for the 1653, but i have my 1633 same drive as the 1653 crossflashed to 1653cstj

check the liteon forum on the board here


#85

Ah, okay. I’ll look around.


#86

rpc1.org. They will either have it or direct you to where you can find it. :wink:


#87

I have since flashed my 832s to the lastest firmware for this model. The VSOG.


#88

ako the frozen ones are fine. I just wish there was some testing software for my NEC 2500a, to do those scan things people have. I would do some before and after to show the results. Alas there seems to be none.


#89

Are you referring to Kprobe? You can alternatively use DVDInfoPro. It does the same thing Kprobe does and does it for any burner.


#90

dvdinfopro does not work the same way a Kprobe, it gives lower errors than Kprobe & CD Speed and can not be used with any burner.


#91

Lower errors? I was told at speedlabs.org that DVDInfoPro was the more advanced of the two between it and Kprobe and that Kprobe was pretty much an ancient tool and DVDInfoPro is better.


#92

But would it work with a NEC 2500A, ako? As long as I say which programme I use surely those in the know would take that into account with the results. Where would I get it to test it out?

Other than that I am stuck for testing, no space to fit a DVD ROM plus I don’t have the brand mentioned in kprobe.


#93

You can download at: www.dvdinfopro.com and as far as I know it works with NEC drives.


#94

Who told you that? Same guy who told you -R lasts longer than +R? :slight_smile: Also… it doesn’t work with every burner.

RICOHJPNR01 DVD+R 4x media, burns excellent at 8x (with the right firmware) on the 832S. You can find it really cheap too. HERE is a link to some of it at Newegg.com. RICOHJPNR01 is actually considered, by many, to be the best media for the 832S. You can’t really go wrong with it. Good luck.


#95

@Hitman - No, someone from speedlabs.org told me that about DVDInfoPro. The idiot that told me about dvd-r lasting longer then dvd+r was just an advocate for dvd-r. To your link…I can’t buy them as I’m in Australia. I used to buy those discs, but now I cannot find them in Australia anymore :frowning: So I’m stuck buying Ritek R02 or TDK dvd+r.


#96

This doesn’t have anything to do with + or -, and you might already know about it, but if not… C0deKing’s firmware for the 832S makes a big difference on some media. You might give it a try. He originally looked at how the NEC3500’s firmware performed, and implemented some of the same things in his firmware.


#97

This might be a too common question, but as far as quality goes which is better? This article claims that +r discs are better - http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/113 If that’s the case, then why are most people using DVD-R dics with a dual format burner???


#98

Survey says: DVD-R has a higher compatibility rate with standalone DVD players than DVD+R does, although personally, I’ve never had a problem with the pluses. I’ve never used DVD-Rs.


#99

For the sake of everyones sanity please


#100

Why, this could be fun…

The technical superiority of +R is clear … created after -R, they didn’t repeat the same mistakes.

In the main though, what you chhose is down to what your writer, and the target reader handle best.

eg. If your writer does a great job on +R, but can’t bitset it, and your target is a standalone player that can’t read +R unless it’s bitset, then you rule out +R.

As with almost all media issues, it’s down to what works for you - not sure if bitset +R is equal to or actually better than -R in stanadalone compatibility - without bitsetting, it’s definitely a worse choice for a standalone DVD player.