Tft monitors

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#1

Hi guys im looking at buying a TFT monitor,either 17" or 19",i need to know what the response rate means,some have 8ms some have 14ms some have 16ms,should i get a lower resonse rate or higher response rate,i do use the computer for gaming but not too much.


#2

The lower the better.

That said, some monitors with 25ms can outperform ones with 16ms.

16ms can show about 60fps
10ms - 100fps

Generally, it depends on what games you play. Most of them work at less than 60fps, so you should be fine with everything that is equal to/less than 16ms.

You should also take into account viewing angle and contrast (the higher, the better). Read some reviews (you can find them with www.google.com), because a bad viewing angle can really get you mad.

Another thing, if your are moving from a CRT monitor then you should know that LCD’s are not very good at showing non native resolutions. So, if the native reslution of a LCD is 1600x1200, 1024x768 might look pretty bad on it.


#3

VIEWSONIC VX924 is currently the best lcd its 4ms and supports upto 250 frames and superb quality

reviews:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2005/07/20/viewsonic_vx924_tft/1.html
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=1&id=1529

you can get it at newegg for 399.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824116355

edit

i disagree with that only very old games work at less then 60 fps and besides it also depends on the graphic card not only the monitor


#4

i disagree with that only very old games work at less then 60 fps and besides it also depends on the graphic card not only the monitor

FPS is pretty much the only genre that would be better with 16ms-.RPG’s, racing , adventure and strategy games don’t usually go over 60fps. Besides, many are satisified with LCD’s then playing HL2, DOOM3 etc. and our person claims he is not a very big gamer.


#5

also keep in mind that some of the faster response time panels (i.e. the viewsonic vx924) are only 6bit and not 8bit panels…

read these 2 threads:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=141237&highlight=6bit+8bit+lcd

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=132060&highlight=6bit+8bit+lcd


#6

Don’t trust the manufacturer’s specs, they are misleading to say the least, read reviews of the hardware before you even think about buying…

The problem with slower response times are “ghosting” on the screen for fast moving images. It can be very annoying if you’re playing games. Read the reviews.


#7

Have to agree with this because less responce time is usually better but as there is no real standard you always have a look at customer reviews…
Other things to look out for are image contrast ie 500:1 (the bigger the figure between the 2 is best)
image brightness measured in cd/m2 (ie 300 is equal to 300 candles brightness in a square meter)
and of course very important is what video inputs there are…


#8

I would go for the HYUNDAI L90D+ which features a Samsung LCD panel. I was just recently in an electronics store and saw one on demo.


#9

The hyundai is NICE, but the Viewsonic VP191 is even better! I have the L90D+, and for $350, it’s a very nice LCD. It satisfies my needs, but they do make something better, though I dunno if it will be noticed. The VP191 is a true 24 bit MVA pannel. It’s also the first 8ms MVA pannel, most fast pannels are TN 18 bit color. The electronics can make it do close to 24 bit color, but it’s not as good as the MVA pannels. You’ll like either one, and ZipZoomFly has the VP191 for $428. That’s a little expensive for an LCD, but hey, it’s the BEST. :iagree:


#10

http://www.monitor4u.co.kr/guide/content/?idx=270&page=1&act=view&section=

Written by someone who professionally tests display units at a display company. To summarize:

  1. 17-inch LCD monitors have better response times than 19-inch LCD monitors.
  2. 4ms LCD monitors have better response times than 8ms LCD monitors.
  3. LCD monitors using the latest Samsung panel advertised to have 4.0ms to 5.6ms in Black <-> White test, 4.7ms to 7.3ms in Gray <-> Gray test. Results with 19-inch LCD monitors are a little higher: 5.1ms to 10.1ms and 5.8ms to 12.1ms.
  4. Latest TN panels advertised to have 8ms response times could actually have 30ms or worse response times. VA (PVA of Samsung, MVA of Fujitsu, etc.) advertised to have 25ms response times could actually have 80ms or worse response times.

Another article about response times but written in October 2003.

http://www.monitor4u.co.kr/guide/content/?idx=222&page=1&act=view&section=

The latter article concludes IPS panels are superior in response times to TN and VA panels and lists a few IPS panel makers: Hitachi of Japan (the original inventor of IPS technology), LG-Philips, IDT (of Taiwan, working with IBM), and “FFS” likely to be based on IPS of BOE-Hydis (former Hyundai Electronics TFT-LCD business unit, called just Hydis.)

A little more interesting article is:

http://www.monitor4u.co.kr/guide/content/?idx=269&page=1&act=view&section=

IMID 2005 - Samsung S-PVA vs. LG.Philips LCD Enhanced S-IPS

Attached picture is one for LG.Philips LCD’s Enhanced S-IPS. LG group itself promotes PDP HDTVs mainly rather than LCD HDTVs because LG Electronics makes PDP while LG.Philips LCD is not 100% owned by LG group. The opposite is true in Samsung. Samsung mainly promotes LCD HDTV because Samsung Electronics makes LCD while Samsung SDS, another part of Samsung group but still a competitor to Samsung Electronics, makes PDP and CRT for Samsung. On a reply in the last article, the author says Eizo of Japan is going to release 21-inch wide S-PVA LCD monitors soon. An 82-inch TFT-LCD was also displayed.