Terrible DVD+RW burning results!

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#1

what’s going on?!
I tried two different discs with same result.
And Pioneer DVR-108 burns them just fine!! :frowning:
(see also http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=123234)


#2

Whats going on to me looks like you have either burned or read the disk at an overclocked speed rw disks like memorex have a burn max of 4 and a read max of 4.6 or so…some are much higher in the 12s for read only all rw are burn 4x…


#3

Could you burn the DVD+RW disk with the Pioneer and do another scan with the BenQ or at least post the graph?
What speed is that DVD+RW? Your graph shows avg reading speed nearly 10x, that may be too fast - maybe Nero CDVD Speed overrides a max speed setting or so?


#4

Did you burn the discs on the Pioneer first? I found that I get extremely good results on all 4x dvd+rw’s with my Benq 1620, unless I have burned them before with another writer. I have tested MKM A02, Ricohjpnw11 and Philips 041, but not those Ritek 04’s.


#5

Hi guys,

thanks for the comments and ideas!
Here are my comments:

> Whats going on to me looks like you have either
> burned or read the disk at an overclocked speed

> Your graph shows avg reading speed nearly 10x, that may be too fast…

no; this is a 4x DVD+RW and burned at 4x.
Don’t know why CD/DVD speed actually shows 9.65x …
I also tried to scan it in another drive (Pioneer flashed as Poidata) with very similar results and reading speed was about 3x.
Here is this scan: http://club.cdfreaks.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=22353&stc=1

> Could you burn the DVD+RW disk with the Pioneer and do another
> scan with the BenQ or at least post the graph?

Here is it: http://club.cdfreaks.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=22354&stc=1

This is the same disc, just recorded with Pioneer.
One single PIF peak (maybe scratched), else quite good result: average PI=57 and PIF=1.5
BenQ result: average PI over 2350 and PIF over 15.

> Did you burn the discs on the Pioneer first?
> I found that I get extremely good results on
> all 4x dvd+rw’s with my Benq 1620, unless I
> have burned them before with another writer.

yes, I did! Both DVD+RWs I tested are already used discs.
I also thought that this may be a promlem… I will try to burn new disc (must bought one first).
Could complete deletion/formatting help? I’ll try it now.
(too bad that I don’t have new DVD+Rs at the moment…)

Thanka,
Vygi


#6

A full format can help, although I never get the exact same quality as with a new disc. I usually get 95-97% scores in CD speed with new +rw’s.

When I switched from my old Plextor 708a to the NEC 3500, I found that helped if I first performed a complete format on my Plextor 708a and then again on the NEC (took half an hour per disc…)
That method does not work from NEC to Benq, but doing a full format can improve the quality score up to a certain point. And now I only use the Benq for +rw.


#7

Hey - good news! I finally sorted it out (I hope).

Yesterday I flashed my BenQ to B7T9 and tried to record one of these DVD+RW I tested (I used them with Pioneer before).
It was better but still not good (1st image). :confused:
Now I think that it was better just because I recorded it with BenQ for the 2nd time.

Today I take one DVD+RW, made full format with Pioneer, then again full format with BenQ, and recorded it once again.
And promptly got quality score 95!! (2nd image) :iagree: :slight_smile: :smiley: :cool:

Now I am about to full-format the 1st one (RICOHJP W11) and re-burn it again.

CU,
Happy Vygi :wink:




#8

SUCCESS!
This is the same disc as above on the left.
First picture: recorded after one full format, 2nd picture: after 2nd full format.
And I’m sure that after 3rd full format this DVD+RW will be even better.
Now I can finally go to bed - thank you, BenQ! :bow:




#9

I hope this works for me too, I am getting horrendous results with my BenQ drive (same as yours) and with the same RICOH DVD+RW brand, these disks were working perfectly with my last burner (Liteon LDW811s).

What program are you using to format the discs? Just Nero and full erase?

Thanks.


#10

Mine have a quality of 96 to 97. I am on B7P9, however.


#11

That’s surprising. My Lite-Off did a crappy job of my Fuji (ricojpnw11) disks but my new BenQ 1620 does a wonderfull job on them. Also, the Legacy +RW from newegg work very well in both.


#12

I am re-formating these discs and will post after. I am full-reasing them with Nero 6.0.6 or CD-Speed. Quality tests are done with CD-Speed at 4X. I have cross-flashed my OEM to retail B7T9 (hope that this is not the cause).


#13

Look here, what do you think? I am not impressed at all with the writing quality for this media on this 1620 drive, OC-Freak got excelent results in the review with the exactly same media (That’s Write DVD+RW RICOH).

Graphic 1 shows the first horrendous scan after burning it with Nero in the DW1620

Graphic 2 shows the same disk after been full erased in CD-Speed and written using the Create Data Disc option (the option format doesn’t work (?)

Graphic 3 shows the disk when burned and tested with my old Liteon LDW-811s (This is a K-probe test but it shows that the disc gave excelent quality on the Liteon)





#14

I get pretty good results with RicohJPN W11 media (Fuji), see attached. I’m using Nero 6.6.0.1 & crossflashed to B7T9. Similar to you, I had massive problems writing DVD+RW but Verbatim MKM A02 even other people here seem to get good results. So I dumped the Verbatims and tried the Ricohs instead. In fact writing the Verbatims completed but during the verifying process read errors ocurred.

PS: The very first burn with the Verbatims looked good, but after a complete erase cycle the next burn was crap.

  1. RicohJPN W11, after multiple full erase cycles
  2. Verbatim MKM A02 - first burn
  3. Verbatim MKM A02 - 2nd burn after full erase :Z





#15

These are my other RICOHJPN W11 DVD+RW scans with different firmware after first burn and after multiple full erase cycles. I guess that these are ok, as I had no read errors yet. :cop:







#16

last two ricohs




#17

Those are VERY GOOD scores (everything over 90). I am stuck with these horrible scores (40-60)!!
Have your discs been used from the beggining in the BenQ or they were used in amnother drive before?


#18

used the media only in the benq

it realy a pain in the a** if the RWs other people are getting good results with don’t work. good lock from here!


#19

Can it be possible that its a crossflash issue? Mine is also an OEM flashed into BenQ FW.


#20

Mine, with the 96 and 97 scores were used in an NEC 3500 as well.

Also, My BenQ was an IO Magic that I cross Flashed.