Taiyo Yuden? really?

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#1

guys I’d be very greatful if you could help answer this little question that’s come up. I bought this DVD+R spindle in BJ’s (in USA) and used them to burn movies using Nero 7. now the discs (and I went through MANY manufacturers) are performing nicely. (I tried Memorex, TDK, Verbatim, and these BJ’s brand before. My experience with the Memorex was pretty bad. Movies became pixelated and stuttered after one/two run-throughs!) Now these Berkley & Jensen brand discs seemed to work nicely. So I ran them through my DVD Identifier just for kicks. What did I find? Taiyo Yuden yuden000 T02! Wowie! Didn’t see that coming!
My question is this: are they REALLY taiyo yudens? Or can they be knock-offs?
(p.s. I bought there also a 100 spindle od verbatim DVD+Rs [before knowing these were taiyo yudens] and they work pretty well although they say MII. are these still of good quality? I guess what I’m saying is: Taiyo Yudens are really no match for anything else, right? But are these really them? If so, then KUDOS to me!)
p.p.s. who makes the best DVD+/-R DLs in your opinion? Taiyo Yuden doesn’t make DLs, right? who should I buy then?

Thank you for your info and answers!


#2

The B&J disks might be knockoffs, but if they are working so well they could be genuine. Have you run any scans on them? Do they say Made in Japan on the label? TY is only made in Japan, and if you are in the US, the cakebox label is supposed to show country of manufacture.

Some people have good luck with the MII single layer Verbatims. Arachne has had consistent results with them. Most seem to prefer the Taiwanese made Verbatims though.

Taiyo Yuden does make -R dual layer disks, but they aren’t well respected around here, and are very hard to get outside of Japan. The best dual layer disks are made by Mitsubishi, sold under the Verbatim brand usually. The ones made in Sinagpore are more consistent than the MII versions. It is getting much harder to find the MIS dual layers buying online, since the MII disks are showing up in both the slower MKM001 variety and the MKM003.


#3

so really u haven’t told me anything new, have you?
thanks anyway.

p.s. how CAN one make sure of country of manufacturing when purchasing online? and if you know anything - any link - to buy MIS or other good media send me a link!
thnx!


#4

I haven’t told you anything new? Lets see…I’ve given you the fact that TY is only made in Japan, and that you should look on the label of your cakebox to see if they are made in Japan. I’ve also told you to scan them…T02 disks scan very nicely. If your disks show high PIE and PIF totals, despite playing reasonably well, you probably have fakes. What else…MII Verbatims are not the favorites of most around here, though they can be good quality. You apparently didn’t know that already.

You didn’t know TY makes -R DL. You didn’t know a basic fact that Verbatim DL MIS are the best ones to buy.

And if I knew of any sites that [B]only[/B] sell MIS Verbatim DL disks, I certainly wouldn’t be in the mood to share it with you now would I?


#5

LMFAO@Crawlez, thanks for the wealth of information you have provided Kerry56, it’s much appreciated from a DVD-R noob like me.


#6

LOL @ Kerry56’s reply!


#7

[QUOTE=Crawlez;2011522]guys I’d be very greatful if you could help answer this little question that’s come up.[/QUOTE]

http://club.cdfreaks.com/f33/taiyo-yuden-faq-178622/

Check the hub codes.


#8

i don’t want to be disrespectful. thank you for your input, man!

what should i use to scan these discs to find out… at least some info about them (besides dvd ident)? what scans PIE and PIF?


#9

Nero Disc Speed or Kprobe if you have a Lite-On drive.


#10

what shold I be looking for? how do I find what I am looking for? and why in the world do the discs show MANUFACTURER: – in scan (nero speed) and Taiyo Yuden in dvd ident? does THIS mean FAKE?


#11

p.s. where so i find the batch code?


#12

is this anything?
Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc type: : DVD+R
Book Type : DVD-ROM
Manufacturer: : unknown
MID : YUDEN000 T02 000 (00h)
Write speeds: : 4 X - 8 X
Blank Capacity : n/a
Extended Information
Layers : 1
Write strategies : 4 X
Disc Status : Closed
Raw Data
Physical Format Information (00h)
0000 - 01 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 25 EF 0F 00 00 00 00 - …%…
0010 - 00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4E 30 30 30 54 30 32 00 38 - …YUDEN000T02.8
0020 - 23 54 37 10 02 4E 72 02 8C 63 16 16 0B 0B 0A 0A - #T7…Nr…c…
0030 - 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - …
0040 - 01 00 38 38 02 34 63 13 05 22 22 10 0E 12 12 01 - …88.4c…""…
0050 - 00 00 02 34 63 13 05 22 22 10 0E 12 12 01 00 00 - …4c…""…


#13

i also have other BJ’s discs which seem to give off this
Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc type: : DVD+R
Book Type : DVD-ROM
Manufacturer: : CMC
MID : CMC MAG E01 000 (00h)
Write speeds: : 4 X - 8 X
Blank Capacity : n/a
Extended Information
Layers : 1
Write strategies : 4 X
Disc Status : Closed
Raw Data
Physical Format Information (00h)
0000 - 01 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 25 EE 7F 00 00 00 00 - …%…
0010 - 00 00 03 43 4D 43 20 4D 41 47 00 45 30 31 00 38 - …CMC.MAG.E01.8
0020 - 23 54 37 10 02 38 6A 02 88 67 15 15 0B 0B 08 08 - #T7…8j…g…
0030 - 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - …
0040 - 01 00 38 38 02 27 61 16 08 2E 23 10 04 1E 1D 01 - …88.'a…#…
0050 - 00 00 02 27 61 16 08 2E 23 10 04 1E 1D 01 00 00 - …'a…#…

can you please tell me what i’ve go here? (i bet this’ll scare even you!)


#14

[QUOTE=Crawlez;2011522]guys I’d be very greatful if you could help answer this little question that’s come up. I bought this DVD+R spindle in BJ’s (in USA) and used them to burn movies using Nero 7. now the discs (and I went through MANY manufacturers) are performing nicely. (I tried Memorex, TDK, Verbatim, and these BJ’s brand before. My experience with the Memorex was pretty bad. Movies became pixelated and stuttered after one/two run-throughs!) Now these Berkley & Jensen brand discs seemed to work nicely. So I ran them through my DVD Identifier just for kicks. What did I find? Taiyo Yuden yuden000 T02! Wowie! Didn’t see that coming!
My question is this: are they REALLY taiyo yudens? Or can they be knock-offs?
(p.s. I bought there also a 100 spindle od verbatim DVD+Rs [before knowing these were taiyo yudens] and they work pretty well although they say MII. are these still of good quality? I guess what I’m saying is: Taiyo Yudens are really no match for anything else, right? But are these really them? If so, then KUDOS to me!)
p.p.s. who makes the best DVD+/-R DLs in your opinion? Taiyo Yuden doesn’t make DLs, right? who should I buy then?[/QUOTE]

If I were you I would deal with respectable on-line store ,such as Supemedia Store, I have dealt with them many times and have alway’s gotten original Taiyo’s, all played fine. Last batch I bought cost me about $30.00 for 100 T02’s,shipping included.


#15

[quote=durkinjt;2012218]If I were you I would deal with respectable on-line store ,such as Supemedia Store, I have dealt with them many times and have alway’s gotten original Taiyo’s, all played fine. Last batch I bought cost me about $30.00 for 100 T02’s,shipping included.[/QUOTE]

Will do! thank you!

p.s. is supermediastore.com the exact address?
p.p.s. can u guarantee they’re made in JAPAN? or at least reasonably convince me?


#16

When you go to the Supermedia store website there is a whole section discussing how to tell the difference between real/fake Taiyo’s.


#17

what about my supposed taiyo yuden discs: can anyone look at the info? it’s not really TY, is it?


#18

[QUOTE=Crawlez;2014756]what about my supposed taiyo yuden discs: can anyone look at the info? it’s not really TY, is it?[/QUOTE]

No-one can tell you til you post the codes around the hub of the disc (as suggested before).

They’re pretty hard to see unless you hold the disc up to the light.