The court decision that forced ISP Tele2 to block access to AllofMP3.com had a ripple effect on other service providers. On December 12, the ISP Perspektiv Bredband also blocked AllofMP3.com from its Swedish and Danish customers. Full Story at Slyck
I canât blame them, since there is no evidence to date AllOfMP3 is illegalâonly dubious âclaimsâ from the RIAA that AllOfMP3 is. Anyone informed about RIAA tactics knows that what the RIAA âclaimsâ doesnât = the truth.
Oh, I didnât know a court had sad that they had to block it, I wonder why not all ISPs does that then.
And illegal or not I think itâs a bad service since it beats the whole reason of purchasing anything in the first place, why pay at all when the artists get nothing? And why pay for âpirate copiesâ (althought these maybe shouldnât be called that but itâs more or less the same anyway.)
Me myself would just get them for free instead, I guess the only reason to use the service is if you donât wanna wait/search for the files or want them in a lossless format or as ogg or something.
But âI buy my music but I donât like DRM so I bought it over att allofmp3â is quite a stupid reason
âSince AllofMP3.com has yet to be ruled illegal in Sweden or Denmark, the actions by both ISPs drew enormous criticism from citizens, journalists and copyright reform organizations such as the Swedish Bureau of Piracy.â
So no, no court decision I suppose?
[Quote=]since there is no evidence to date AllOfMP3 is illegalâonly dubious âclaimsâ from the RIAA that AllOfMP3 is. Anyone informed about RIAA tactics knows that what the RIAA âclaimsâ doesnât = the truth. [/Quote]
VERY TRUE VERY TRUE. There is no evidence so far that ALLOfMP3 is illegal in what they are doing. Anyway in a lot of countries it is legal.
[Quote=] And illegal or not I think itâs a bad service since it beats the whole reason of purchasing anything in the first place, why pay at all when the artists get nothing?[/Quote] Why is it a bad service ?? Because they are cheaper than the other download sites and donââŹâ˘t have DRM on their music??? How much do you think the RIAA pays the Artist for each CD sold??? Very very Little they keep most of the money for them selves.
[Quote=] I guess the only reason to use the service is if you donât wanna wait/search for the files or want them in a lossless format or as ogg or something.[/Quote]
Something like that .
Because asking for payment for pirated material should be thrown upon. Itâs pretty lame to earn your money on someone else work, thought that is probably that how almost all wealth in the world is generated but anyway. Itâs bad because no money goes to the artist, you could just aswell pirate yourself and donât pay a shit.
No, because they take money of which none reaches the artist.
I have no idea, Iâm not even american, but atleast the artist get some money, and I suppose they can choose themself if they want to get that cd contract or not, itâs not like someone is forcing them. But sure there could be better alternatives, some sort of online distribution there most money reaches the artist and some is spent on the bandwidth and storage, without any advertisment, middle hands and music stores. But in that case the artists themself need to start such a service or atleast use it. I think myspace where setting one up wasnât they? Maybe that will work, althought myspace seems to be a pile of shit imho. Internet anno 1995.
But newly lame encoded mp3s sounds really good aswell, so I mostly belive itâs a mental thing with âomg it sounds so much betterâ, p2p/ftp leeched music probably work just as good, the question is if itâs worth the effort or if 10 cent / tune is easier. I wonder if itâs legal to buy music from such a service.
I donât see the big deal about the money actually going to the artist. I look at it this way - thereâs these things called âlibrariesâ which give everybody totally free access to âcopyrighted materialâ and I donât hear of too many authors crying foul/poor all the time, or billion-dollar lawsuits against these libraries. Thereâs more money to be made in touring, etc., and they still get enough sales to boot.
Well, based strictly on that, that means there is no âabstract of judgment,â i.e., no court decision saying what the judicial stand is on it. Good eye for detail, johankh, and I welcome you to read our news articles on the front page, as we could always use more input from readers with eyes for detail.
But with a library itâs another thing, one have agreed to get one and I would assume in most countries that they pay some sort of fee for the contents of it. But yes, if we skipped all middle hands and had say a digital library for everyone to use for all music available the costs would get drastically lowered and it wouldnât cost so much. The people except the artists and producers working with the music could get some other more useful job.
Except libraries pay specific license fees based upon and agreement where they are going to loan to users. There are legal contracts covering this and money is collected. If a library user copies material, then it is the responsibility of that individual user for breaking copyright law. Also, we all pay for libraries in our taxes, so theyâre not free, theyâre just unlimited access.
Now, the issue of users copying CDs / DVDs from libraries is another thing entirely⌠That comes down simply to politics⌠no organisation is going to mess with the kind of jobsworths who sit on local councils and take away their library access rights and childrens educational material. - nobody would want to start that fight. Governments would get involved in that one pretty quickly IMO
Excellent points. I didnât explain that metaphor very well; you two showed that. I agree with what you both said. There are some fees (most of them are quite small and one-time-only) and yes, we pay for them with taxes, but itâs a miniscule amount per person per year. I know that much - my motherâs a librarian. Trust me, Random House doesnât exactly make a killing off of libraries. I was just kinda pointing out the similarities between P2P & libraries; the RIAA should relax. If they want more money in the artistâs pockets, go after the middle men/fatcats. Not the end users. Then again, itâs the middlemen theyâre worried about, no? As in, rich powerful businessmen?
Anyway, thatâs a bit off-topic. My opinion is that it was a dumb idea to block AllofMP3.com if it hasnât been proven to be illegal (yet). They were just asking for a public outcry on that move. And it seems like they got it.