Ploegercr About 2 yrs ago Sunncomm was the first to boast that they had a “Napster Proof” CD “A Tribute To Jim Reeves” by Charley Pride and in fact if you go to their site you will still see that advertisement. However Andy McFadden cracked that and about the same time on this forum there was a visitor who presented a powerpoint presentation on how he hacked it. Best ppt i had seen in years and perhaps some of you remember that event. My time to tear this to shreds was approximately 45 minutes. Sunncomm also found out that approximately 2000 copies of Charley Pride’s album with no copy protection were released to Australia and shortly thereafter the files appeared on p2p programs. Says a lot about “Napster Proof” They were also sued because some woman bought the album and it wouldn’t work when she tried to play it at home, Sunncomm lost that suit and promised better labeling so you would know that you were purchasing a copyprotected CD. One of Sunncomm’s clients tried to play it in his shiny expensive vehicle and of course to his surprise it wouldn’t play in the vehicle’s CD player. CDmaker is absolutely correct in his assessment about Sunncomm and i figured them out with their press releases a long time ago and came to the same conclusions that snow jobs were abundant in Phoenix, Arizona They are now employing DRM with regards to WMA file(s) and having looked at the source code i found three places that are entirely without merit and there is possibly a fourth place that lacks substance and i looked at the code it was just a cursory examination. Just a thought , are we going to hear the BS about we can’t tell you wha CD’s are protected with MediaMax CD-3 because we don’t want to influence the consumer-Translated if we tell you we know it will be hacked before the day’s out.