Strange Spike in every discs that came out from my 1693s, Please Help

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#1

I having strange problem with my 1693s lately.

There are some Strange Spike around 2.0-2.3 Gb in EVERY discs that I burn.

Here are some pics.
Mcc 003 (Made In Taiwan) @8x, I tried many discs from the same spindle, all have this weired Spike… But please noted that before this problem happen, All discs in THIS spindle burnt perfectly w/o any problem.

Daxon AZ3 @8X Also have this problem @same position.

You’ll see that error spike is EXACTLY the same spot, so I’am pretty sure it’s my drive’s problem (not bad disc problem)

And I also have this problem with many other quality discs like Taiyo, TDK, Verb. I don’t have time to scan them all and post here, but all discs have the same error pattern like these two pics.

Please Noted that I’am pretty sure that it isn’t disc problem (bad disc, stample flaw) cause when I try these discs (many discs in the same spindle) with my friend’s burner, it burnt fine and quality score is normal.

Here are my computer information.

Lite-On 1693S F/W Ks0B
— I tried Clear learnt Media, Reflash my bios to Ks0A, use Patched Ks0B bios but No Success —

Cpu Athlon XP 3200+
Ram 1Gb Dual Channel
Abit NF-7S all driver installed and works stable.
Os = WinXP sp2
My system is Virus free (Avast is installed --But disabled when I burn the disc), and scanning online @panda website shown no virus.

Nero 6.6.0.13

DMA is enabled
Neroinfotools

Windows IDE properties (my dvd-rw is no 2nd Master)

P.S. I don’t know if it relevent, but I notice that while burning the disc around 50% Buffer level in my drive and system cache are drop to half for around 5-6 sec and then back to normal. And there is NO load on my machine when I burn these discs, cpu is almost idle all the time.

Here is the pics when it happen and you’ll see that Almost no program running (look at my task bar) when I burn these discs.

And then it back to normal, like this pic.

Here are my system resource when burning discs

Anyone know what cause this problem, Please help me.

Before this happen, every discs burnt normally… until one day, I have this problem :doh:

Any help would be greatly Appreciated.


#2

Here is Burn LOG.


Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=45056 bytes, created 7/17/2002 8:20:56 AM 
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 6:35:34 PM 
Nero Version: 6.6.0.13
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 13c

Recorder:             <LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1693S>Version: KS0B - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.13
 Adapter driver:      <atapi>                   HA 1
 Drive buffer  :      2048kB
 Bus Type      :      default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI 
CD-ROM:               <SCSIVAX  DVD/CD-ROM      >Version: 2.7a - HA 3 TA 0 - 6.6.0.13
 Adapter driver:      <Vax347s>                 HA 3

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral       : Maxtor 6E040L0                   atapi Port 0 ID 0  DMA: On 
CdRomPeripheral      : LITE-ON LTR-24102B               atapi Port 0 ID 1  DMA: On 
CdRomPeripheral      : LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1693S         atapi Port 1 ID 0  DMA: On 
DiskPeripheral       : ST380011A                        atapi Port 1 ID 1  DMA: On 
DiskPeripheral       : QUANTUM FIREBALLP AS20.5A1Y.   SI3112r Port 2 ID 0  DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral      : SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM      2.7a   Vax347s Port 3 ID 0  DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral      : PG7309Z DGV938F         1.0     dtscsi Port 4 ID 0  DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
LITE-ON LTR-24102B         G:   CDRom0
LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1693S   H:   CDRom1
SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM         Z:   CDRom2
PG7309Z DGV938F            Y:   CDRom3
=======================

AutoRun : 0
Excluded drive IDs: 
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE           : 0
Physical memory     : 1023MB (1048048kB)
Free physical memory: 690MB (706880kB)
Memory in use       : 32 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry    : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0) 

21.5.2006
ISO compilation
2:21:00 PM	#1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6194
	Iso document burn settings
	------------------------------------------
	Determine maximum speed : FALSE
	Simulate                : FALSE
	Write                   : TRUE
	Finalize CD             : TRUE
	Multisession            : FALSE
	Burning mode            : DAO
	Mode                    : 1
	ISO Level               : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
	Character set           : ISO 9660
	Joliet                  : TRUE
	Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
	Allow more than 255 characters in path  : TRUE
	Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions        : TRUE
	
2:21:00 PM	#2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
	Reader running
	
2:21:00 PM	#3 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
	Writer LITE-ON  DVDRW SOHW-1693S running
	
2:21:00 PM	#4 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3293
	First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
	
2:21:00 PM	#5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3167
	Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media
	
2:21:00 PM	#6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 260
	Last possible write address on media:  2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
	Last address to be written:            2171871 (482:38.21, 4241MB)
	
2:21:00 PM	#7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 272
	Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)
	
2:21:00 PM	#8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2339
	Recorder: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1693S, Media type: DVD-R
	 Disc Manufacturer: POSG06 - 
	 Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193
	
2:21:00 PM	#9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 438
	>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
	=========================================
	
2:21:00 PM	#10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 830
	Setup items (after recorder preparation)
	 0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
	    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
	    original disc pos #0 + 2171872 (2171872) = #2171872/482:38.22
	    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
	    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2171872 blocks [LITE-ON  DVDRW SOHW-1693S]
	--------------------------------------------------------------
	
2:21:00 PM	#11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1043
	Prepare recorder [LITE-ON  DVDRW SOHW-1693S] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
	DAO infos:
	==========
	 MCN: ""
	 TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
	 Tracks 1 to 1:
	   1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos             0             0    4447993856, ISRC ""
	DAO layout:
	===========
	 __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
	       0 |  lead-in |   0 |    0x41 | 0x00
	       0 |        1 |   0 |    0x41 | 0x00
	       0 |        1 |   1 |    0x41 | 0x00
	 2171872 | lead-out |   1 |    0x41 | 0x00
	
2:21:01 PM	#12 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
	Caching of files started
	
2:21:01 PM	#13 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4051
	Cache writing successful.
	
2:21:01 PM	#14 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
	Caching of files completed
	
2:21:01 PM	#15 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
	Burn process started at 8x (11,080 KB/s)
	
2:21:01 PM	#16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2609
	Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
	
2:21:01 PM	#17 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2267
	Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode
	
2:21:01 PM	#18 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21469
	Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON , SMART-BURN : ON
	
2:21:01 PM	#19 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2421
	Start write address at LBA 0
	DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
	
2:21:01 PM	#20 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8438
	---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
	Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
	 Book Type: DVD-R   (2), Part Version: 5
	 Disc Size: 120 mm,      Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
	 Number of Layers: 1,    Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP),  Layer Type: recordable
	 Linear Density:         0,267 um/bit,  Track Density:  0,74 um/track
	 Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
	 End Physical Sector Number of Data Area:      26127F h
	 End Sector Number in Layer 0:                 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
	 Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
	  Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
	  Start sector number of the next Border-In:     0 h
	 Media Specific [16..63]:
	      00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	      00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	      00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	
2:21:44 PM	#21 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1288
	14:21:44.640 - LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1693S\H1 T0 : Queue again later
	
2:29:16 PM	#22 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
	<LITE-ON  DVDRW SOHW-1693S> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2171872 (2123E0h), lenght 0 blocks
	
2:29:16 PM	#23 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
	all writers idle, stopping conversion
	
2:29:16 PM	#24 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2658
	EndDAO: Last written address was 2171871
	
2:29:36 PM	#25 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
	Burn process completed successfully at 8x (11,080 KB/s)
	

Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=16877 bytes, created 7/17/2002 7:53:02 AM 
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.32a, size=20640 bytes, created 11/17/2005 11:19:30 PM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 8/3/2004 10:59:44 PM (Adapter driver for rec)
File 'Drivers\Vax347s.sys': Ver=3.47.0.0 built by: WinDDK, size=5248 bytes, created 4/30/2004 9:33:00 AM (Adapter driver for src)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option) 

This Log came from POSG06 disc which having the same problem.


#3

Excellent post. :slight_smile:

Does it still happen if you do a burn using Nero CD/DVD Speed’s create data disc?


#4

Yes, you seem to have diagnosed the problem yourself very well already. The buffer drop appears to coincide with the spike. Think “hard disks” :slight_smile: .


#5

Finally, the problem fixed…

No… Disc from nero testing function came out normally.

Yes… you’re right, the problem came from HDD. :confused:

After several try with no success, I come to think about it… why Cd speed’s Disc came out perfectly…

Maybe my HDD cause this problem, so I copy this data from its original place to other drive, and fire-up Nero (this time in Simulation mode cause I’ve already wasted dozen of my discs)…

But this time everything run fine, buffer is normal (around 88-9x all the time). So I decide to do some Real burn.

And the results…

Finally, a clean results :iagree: .

After that, I use diskeeper to scan my drive to see if it need to defrag and the program told me that my drive is badly fragment (around 40% fragmentation)… after I defrag my drive, other discs also came out fine :stuck_out_tongue: .

You know what… Computer is my favorite hobby for almost 11 years, but I never realize how important defragmentation is. When I heard people said “you should defrag your drive cause data fragmentation can cause some problem”, I think “bull sh_t, data fragment just cause the drive “a little bit” slower, it cannot cause any REAL problem”. So I used to believe that wasting 4-6 Hrs defrag your drive just for 1-2sec faster execution is not a smart way.

Until to day… I’ll told everyone that have similar problem to “defrag your HDD to see if it fixed”


#6

Very nice scan, PrTv :iagree: .

Yep, especially when the disk is getting full (and you’re working with large files like dvd-iso’s), fragmentation can become a problem.

Also, you should avoid burning files to dvd from that Seagate HDD that’s on the same channel/cable as your DVDRW drive :wink: .