SRT subs on avi files

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#1

I have a problem with SRT subs on avi files. Some will show on my Bluray player but others will not. I have googled and seen they must be ANSI encoded and saved or- resaved if other encoding- under notepad as all files. Also they must be the same name such as anyfilm.avi and anyfilm.srt

But even this will not work on some of them. the subs are in english and do not have any unusual characters as far as i can see.

Some which would not show did show when saved as ANSI but others just will not work at all

Can anyone tell me what i am missing where I am going wrong?


#2

Have you tried using AViAddXSubs? http://www.videohelp.com/tools/AVIAddXSubs


#3

[QUOTE=Kerry56;2646904]Have you tried using AViAddXSubs? http://www.videohelp.com/tools/AVIAddXSubs[/QUOTE]no i will check it out thanks. i was hoping i could do it without another program though


#4

That worked thanks very much. i am still curious as to why thyeb would not show with the avi/srt . If anyone reads this and knows please post


#5

Your player just accepts a “specific” .srt form.
Eg. the size of .srt can make a difference.


#6

[QUOTE=chef;2647812]Your player just accepts a “specific” .srt form.
Eg. the size of .srt can make a difference.[/QUOTE]you mean the size in KB?


#7

Not that size in general but the amount of words in the .srt file.
Maybe you could check if there is the difference between “big” .srt files and small ones?!


#8

[QUOTE=chef;2648004]Not that size in general but the amount of words in the .srt file.
Maybe you could check if there is the difference between “big” .srt files and small ones?![/QUOTE]Interesting idea thanks

I experimented thus:

Film A has 15353 words and it [B]showed subs[/B] on my blu ray player
Film B has 16101 words and it [B]did not show[/B] subs on my blu ray player

I edited the SRT of film B to have only 303 words but [B]still it did not show [/B]the subs on my blu ray player

SRTs are both saved as ANSI as all files and also tried saving as ANSI as txt file

AViAddXSubs works for me I am just curious about this


#9

Then maybe you should check the true video format of both these movies.
I would say they will differ in codecs used.


#10

[QUOTE=chef;2648400]Then maybe you should check the [B]true video format[/B] of both these movies.
I would say they will differ in codecs used.[/QUOTE]I opened them in media info but not sure what to look for.

The one that shows subs on blu ray is BVOP4
The one that does not show subs on blu ray is BVOP2.
That relevant?

Both say 1 video stream MPEG-4 Visual{XviD). Is that what you mean by [B]true video format[/B]?

Googled this but do not understand it really. Thanks for your patience


#11

Open MediaInfo, set the View to Tree.

Open the file with MediaInfo and copy and paste the information you see there (minus the title of the video) into this thread.


#12

[B]Missing[/B] subs on bluray player

General
Complete name : C:\Users\username\path****.avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
Format profile : OpenDML
Format settings : rec
File size : 700 MiB
Duration : 1h xxmn
Overall bit rate : 895 Kbps
Writing application : AVI-Mux GUI 1.17.7, Aug 8 2006 20:59:17

Video
ID : 0
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile : Advanced Simple@L5
Format settings, BVOP : 2
Format settings, QPel : No
Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix : Default (H.263)
Muxing mode : Packed bitstream
Codec ID : XVID
Codec ID/Hint : XviD
Duration : 1h xxmn
Bit rate : 780 Kbps

Width : 640 pixels
Height : 336 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 1.905
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.145
Stream size : 610 MiB (87%)
Writing library : XviD 1.2.1 (UTC 2008-12-04)

Audio
ID : 1
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 3
Mode : Joint stereo
Mode extension : MS Stereo
Codec ID : 55
Codec ID/Hint : MP3
Duration : 1h xxmn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 112 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 87.6 MiB (13%)
Alignment : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration : 900 ms (22.49 video frames)
Interleave, preload duration : 208 ms
Title : *********************************
Writing library : LAME3.98r
Encoding settings : -m j -V 4 -q 2 -lowpass 15.6 -b 112

[B]Has [/B]subs in blu ray player

General
Complete name : C:\Users\username*****.avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
File size : 700 MiB
Duration : 2h *mn
Overall bit rate : 756 Kbps
Writing library : VirtualDub build 32842/release
:

Video
ID : 0
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile : Advanced Simple@L5
Format settings, BVOP : 4
Format settings, QPel : No
Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix : Default (H.263)
Muxing mode : Packed bitstream
Codec ID : XVID
Codec ID/Hint : XviD
Duration : 2h mn
Bit rate : 634 Kbps
Width : 624 pixels
Height : 256 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel
Frame) : 0.166
Stream size : 587 MiB (84%)
Writing library : XviD 64

Audio
ID : 1
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 3
Mode : Joint stereo
Mode extension : MS Stereo
Codec ID : 55
Codec ID/Hint : MP3
Duration : 2h *mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 112 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 104 MiB (15%)
Alignment : Split accross interleaves
Interleave, duration : 42 ms (1.00 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration : 500 ms
Writing library : LAME3.98r
Encoding settings : -m j -V 4 -q 3 -lowpass 15.6 -b 112


#13

The first one is made by Avi-Mux GUI and is using Open DML. It probably has some problems in the header of the avi. There is no real reason to use Open DML in this encoding, since the size of the avi file is less than 2gb.

B-VOP refers to motion prediction in the encoding. The method used should not be related to the subtitle issue.


#14

[QUOTE=Kerry56;2648560]The first one is made by Avi-Mux GUI and is using Open DML. [B]It probably has some problems in the header of the avi[/B]. There is no real reason to use Open DML in this encoding, since the size of the avi file is less than 2gb.

B-VOP refers to motion prediction in the encoding. The method used should not be related to the subtitle issue.[/QUOTE][B]how would I find and fix it,[/B] just to see if i can mke it show the subs? Would thishelp and have you any idea what i would be looking for

thanks:clap:


#15

The way that program functions, I doubt it would help.

You could try AviEdit, but it is a tool I have never used. Virtualdub has a hex editor you might want to try. Read through this: http://www.virtualdub.org/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=25


#16

[QUOTE=Kerry56;2648567]The way that program functions, I doubt it would help.

You could try AviEdit, but it is a tool I have never used. Virtualdub has a hex editor you might want to try. Read through this: http://www.virtualdub.org/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=25[/QUOTE]thanks i will check it out later


#17

Convert it to mkv and embed the subtitle in, many bluray players play mkv support.


#18

[QUOTE=joshuatly;2648583]Convert it to mkv and embed the subtitle in, many bluray players play mkv support.[/QUOTE]thanks but i can add subs with aviaddxsubs. i am just trying to figure why this will not display subs in the blu ray player