Since the PS3 is a reasonably cheap Blu-Ray player how does the HD-DVD mouthpiece knows if some people are purchasing the PS3 to serve as a Blu-Ray player or not? He just says they sold 200,000 standalone players and that the PS3 numbers should not be counted. Bah, stupid reasoning. Over here, the PS3 will launch in a few days and the ads are, quite clearly, touting it as the cheapest Blu-Ray player (which over here it is and by a large margin; no HD-DVD players on sight) and placing Blu-Ray movies near the PS3. The HD-DVD camp would probably like to have a trojan horse, like the PS3 but, unfortunately for them, that is not the case. Tough luck! :d I do agree that it is far from clear if any of these formats will be the victor, but it’s looks like that, if there’ll be a winner, it will not be HD-DVD.