So, Ballmer says he'll retire within a year

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#1

I see that MS CEO Ballmer says he’ll retire “within a year” all the while most industry watchers have listed him near the top of their “Endangered CEO Species” lists.

Apparently walking the plank and then bouncing on it a few times is better for the Splash Ratings.

Or, is his splash more of a kersplat?

Once the announcement was made, Microsoft stocks rose.


#2

Will this make Windows 50% faster?


#3

The stock market loves this news MSFT is up over 6% as of 10AM this morning.:wink:


#4

[QUOTE=olyteddy;2697018]Will this make Windows 50% faster?[/QUOTE]
Spit-Laff!


#5

[QUOTE=olyteddy;2697018]Will this make Windows 50% faster?[/QUOTE]
So far my computer is only 27.5% faster today but it has been humming a happy tune all day.


#6

My computer for the first time spoke to me today when I read this. It said who cares.


#7

Hopefully they’ll give the reigns to someone with a clue.


#8

[QUOTE=Stereodude;2697069]Hopefully they’ll give the reigns to someone with a clue.[/QUOTE]

Bill Gates…as much as we love to hate him…he actually did something good…


#9

Just another test of my original pix link, thanks of Oly’s alert.

Stereo, the stories about “Ballmer making $1Billion just by announcing his resignation” are great news for everyone else, too, but your point about hiring “someone who knows” is going to be another risk for investors. Chances are that the initial bloom will see another rise in stocks, but that person’s history will be discovered, and then their actual results will be the core test.

Most of my doubts over the successor are that this person will be better than Ballmer - but frankly, that’s a 51% doubt vs 49%. Not MUCH of a strong feeling. It’s sort of like replacing a heralded coach - the next one in line is usually a flop (ie, Ballmer succeeding Gates), but there’s no certainty that #3 in line will come closer to Gatesian status.

Gates had a major advantage - he was a programmer at heart and learned business. Ballmer was never a programmer and believed his biz decisions solved everything. His first ‘baby’ was Vista, and he scrambled after that. He removed himself from the programming chain of command and returned to biz manager for Win7, but felt he’d made a mistake on the tablet issues so he reinserted himself for the Win7 follow-up product.

I don’t think they need a programmer - a Gatesian mentality who can go to fanboi conventions and issue on-the-spot challenges of VBasic vs All Comers. But they do need someone who has some semblance of an understanding of User Productivity without an Orwellian or tyrannical force.

They need someone who recognizes that users will not be pleasd to repurchase and re-learn their productivity apps simply because they’ve bought a different UI.



#10

Steve Ballmer forced out -


#11

When Ballmer took over in 2000, Microsoft was worth almost $400 billion. Thirteen years later, its value has dropped to around $286 billion.

If I did this I know for sure someone is going to have to fall on his sword. Causing a company to loose that much instead of going up but down is one sure fire way to make investor and board have a bad after taste after all the glitzy and honeymoon is over…


#12

But profits are still higher ( according to what i read ) than before and that is what counts.
He might have fumbled the ball a few times with the new stuff but he still made investors a whole lot of money.


#13

[QUOTE=coolcolors;2697411]When Ballmer took over in 2000, Microsoft was worth almost $400 billion. Thirteen years later, its value has dropped to around $286 billion. [/QUOTE] MSFT March 2000: 55.85
MSFT August 26th 2013: 34.15

NASDAQ Composite March 2000: 5048
NASDAQ Composite August 26th 2013: 3658

MSFT stock has fallen 10% more than the NASDAQ Composite since 2000, so it’s not that bad compared to other tech stocks.


#14

I see one problem, Ballmer likely isn’t the only idiot working at MS.

What they need to do is make their (PC) OS more versatile, have the ability to do more and not limit what it can do…I bet they haven’t learned that lesson.


#15

[QUOTE=Steve33;2697430]I see one problem, Ballmer likely isn’t the only idiot working at MS.

What they need to do is make their (PC) OS more versatile, have the ability to do more and not limit what it can do…I bet they haven’t learned that lesson.[/QUOTE]

He wasn’t an idiot since he got 800 at SAT Math. He was just not the type to lead a company like Microsoft right after Bill Gates was forced to quit. But it wasn’t a company to be led by anyone other than Bill Gates himself. And surely it wasn’t the right time for someone to succeed Bill Gates when he was being attacked from all sides.

The reason to have updated operating system software is to have updates to accomodate new standards and cope with new viruses and malicious codes and drivers for new hardware devices. Windows 8 does just that better than any of the others.

Microsoft was never a perfect software company. But it was much better than Novell, IBM, Apple, Lotus Development, Oracle. Bill Gates wasn’t an angel, but he was much better than his enemies. Bill Gates probably wasn’t comfortable being the head of the largest software company in the world history. But he must have known nobody could replace him.

Well, I can say 1,000 reasons why it is not perfectly reasonable to blame Steve Ballmer for being the CEO of Microsoft, but I know it is more profitable to list 1,000 reasons why Steve Ballmer should be criticized and ridiculed for leading Microsoft.


#16

[QUOTE=ChristineBCW;2697092]…

I don’t think they need a programmer - a Gatesian mentality who can go to fanboi conventions and issue on-the-spot challenges of VBasic vs All Comers. But they do need someone who has some semblance of an understanding of User Productivity without an Orwellian or tyrannical force.

…[/QUOTE]

Steve Ballmer probably never liked computers. Paul Allen did. Steve Wozniak loved computers too much. Steve Jobs was fascinated by computers, but he was more interested in becoming a billionaire by making others love his computers. The two rivals, the two companies succeeded half because of greed and want of money. The other half was love of computers and technology in general. They both believed and wanted to believe the advance and rise of computers could make human lives better. The founder of Samsung also had insane drive. He learned to copy and imitate Japanese who were making money by learning how Western semiconductor companies make chips. His family always planned ahead in the long term seeing 10 years and 50 years beyond. His goal was to secure sources to feed the entire nation for the nation’s survival itself. Compare that with what some of Google’s largest shareholders have done. Google’s too individualistic and too democratic. It works just as well in northern California, but one Google type of executive at Samsung would have destroyed its existence almost instantly. It’s not easy to continue to focus on something when everyone is laughing at you for 20 years.


#17

I have always wondered about Gates’ departure - which admittedly wasn’t very far. He can always yank a very cutting cord around anyone’s throat who threatens him or his ideals of Microsoft.

I’ve wondered if he was fed up with the nit-picking and gave his, “Fine - I’ll leave and then everything is YOUR fault” speech.

Ballmer only gets my publicity-blame because he’s been at the forefront. Actually, I suspect he’s capable of few of the ‘offending decisions’ that I rail against. And that’s probably both an insult and to his credit!

Of all the rumors I anticipate that will continue to fly, it’s the Sinofsky departure just before Win8 was delivered. The winter of discontent had already been worsening, and whoosh - he was gone. How long had slings and arrows been aimed at him behind Microsoft doors? “A good amount of time”, I suspect.

I think Win8.1’s incredibly slight number of UI changes attest to the fact that there’s a great number of his team remaining, and have adapted the “full speed ahead” mentality.

“It might be a brickwall, but let’s hit it at full speed, just to make sure!”


#18

[QUOTE=Kenshin;2700544]He wasn’t an idiot since he got 800 at SAT Math. He was just not the type to lead a company like Microsoft right after Bill Gates was forced to quit. But it wasn’t a company to be led by anyone other than Bill Gates himself. And surely it wasn’t the right time for someone to succeed Bill Gates when he was being attacked from all sides.

The reason to have updated operating system software is to have updates to accomodate new standards and cope with new viruses and malicious codes and drivers for new hardware devices. Windows 8 does just that better than any of the others.
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Certainly you are entitled to your opinion and even posting it here but I do beg to differ with 2 points you made here.

1 Balmer is an idiot and there are likely many more idiots @MS.
Have you ever heard of an educated idiot? (rhetorical, no need to answer)
Having a degree or high IQ doesn’t always mean one is “smart” or wise.
If that were the case, politics wouldn’t be screwed up…something is wrong…right?
There is a such a thing as using good judgment or making correct choices…such doesn’t always work out with brilliant individuals.

2 There is a misconception about updated or new OS being more secure than slightly older ones.
Sure…if one is visiting porn sites exclusively, that person better have the really good countermeasures…

MS wants everyone to believe that all those updates makes their OS (computer) more secure.
How can say a gb of updates make an OS more secure?
Wow, I bet those updates bog down the OS somewhere down the line…
Please though, I know some will disagree with me in this section but personally I don’t think it helps that much…I am not only one…there are many that don’t do any updates…

Finally, I haven’t seen any studies done to prove that W8 is more secure than W7, in fact, Vista with all its paranoia is likely as secure…minus some network woes…

In fact, I have seen where W8 has had security risks…

About the drivers…that is MS/suppliers not making drivers available for yesterday’s OS’.


#19

I’ll never believe a new OS is more secure simply because it’s new. “More secure NOW” is the only truthful claim. Win10, by the way, is REALLY a secure OS.

Now. It has fewer virus attacks than even Win98-SE’s current rate.

Of course, Win11 is going to be MUCH more secure.


#20

Also, I know all humans can be caught looking particularly dumb at times. That’s why dumb ol’ models get paid the big money!

There’s a corollary about “the more photo ops, the more often dumb ones are snapped”, so it’s easy to find Ballmer appearing like a bobblehead.

But he sure makes “dumb” look easy!