Small private and secret networks protect music swappers



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spacegrass used our news submit to tell us that reports that because of the music industry’s large amount of subpoenas, secret and private networks have been surfacing…

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Let the counter-attacks begin.


“There are ways to determine a user’s identity.” - what a load of propoganda bullshit…there are also always ways to remain anonymous. Pack it in with the rhetoric and get real…


Packet sniffing or infiltration would be the only way to break such a network. If it’s encrypted, and limited to 20 or 30 people, the RIAA could never even connect to it. As long as the members don’t trust the wrong person, the only way in would be to intercept traffic and THEN break the encryption. Of course, there’s nothing new about this idea, it’s just managed to get reported… The downside is that with only a handful of people, you don’t have nearly the selection that you have on the big public networks.


Blah, blah, blah. The RIAA’s network engineers are complete idiots. There is no way they will ever be able to break into a network that uses encrypted traffic, UDP transfers with spoofed IP source addresses, and Proxy searching. They can sniff, netstat, and portscan all they want, but the bottom line is that the newer file sharing networks will be completely anonymous and completely safe. The RIAA has already lost this battle and they are using propoganda to try to scare people not savvy with encryption technologies into thinking the party is over.


===> Nothing new really!


If it is a private network then the RIAA has no right knowing what the traffic on it is. Sure it could be song sharing but it could be any number of things. This is a situation where they RIAA would actually need a warrant, which they can’t get because they are not a law enforcement agency.


Surely the answer is just to make people have to firstly register and agree to a legal contract before they can use the service. You then make them agree that they cannot sue over anything they find on the network and that they cannot work with or be affiliated with the RIAA or any other service associated with them if they want to register. Once they agree, you then give them a user name to access the network - by agreeing they’re signing a legal contract that means they cant do anything even if they do find data.


…Nila… Law enforcement agents have the right to agree to these agreements, get in, get the info they need, and bust you. It’s called undercover work. The law allows this. I use to have a bbs with many files on it and had this disclaimer/legal document people had to agree to but it really means jack-squat. :S