Slow start Copy DVD Titles with Preserve menus

This is with CloneDVD2 v 2927 .I also tried one older version.Same problem.
To get better quality I’ve started using Copy DVD Titles with Preserve menus checked. The result has been a delay after the standalone DVD players load the DVD(their load that shows on the TV screen). There is a grey screen with a 45 to 75 second delay before the menu displays.
When I use Copy DVD Titles without checking the Preserve menus the delay is about 5 seconds & the same with Clone DVD.
With Clone DVD the 5 seconds is till something displays usually a warning or preveiw.
So is anyone else having this problem ?
Or a solution ?
I’m using Verbatim +R .