Sleeves with NO Window?

I have read the threads about storage.
The jist is that when a wallet or sleeve with a plastic window is used, there is some chemical damage to the optical disc that degrades it.

But I have noticed that there are paper sleeves with no window and there are, (at least on eBay), Tyvek sleeves with no window.

So has anyone tried quality testing on windowless sleeves of paper or Tyvek for long term storage ???

When you have many many discs, jewel cases (even half thickness) can really take up a lot of room and add up to a lot of weight.

I understand the practicality of storing optical discs individually, but I have no experience with sleeves with no window. I stopped using jewel cases years ago and I now only use spindles.

Thank you for your reply.

A few questions:
Aren’t you concerned with scratching as you search for and add or remove a disc from the stack ?
Doesn’t keeping track of what is in the stack require keeping a manifest up to date ?

I have thousands of discs. I use them as archival storage of backups of my hard disks. I also have hundreds of program disks. The younger folk call them apps. :grinning: I don’t think spindles would work for me. I stopped using wallets after reading the articles some years ago, and I have been using sleeves even though I know they have issues as well, but less than wallets. I do have some critically important discs in half thickness jewel cases, but it is just not workable for all of my discs. I would need another home to house them in addition to the one that houses me. :grinning:

Anyone else ? I can’t be the only person faced with this issue.

I very rarely need to find a disc, because the same data are also stored on hard disks.

I’ve use the paper sleeves with no window for a long time.
I do have a cabinet that holds them.
I separate then with Alphabet cards so I can tell where to look for a movie.
The discs stand on their edge.
I haven’t noticed any deterioration problems.
Standing on the edge hasn’t caused warping problems for me.

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I’ve use the paper sleeves with no window for a long time.
I do have a cabinet that holds them.
I separate then with Alphabet cards so I can tell where to look for a movie.
The discs stand on their edge.
I haven’t noticed any deterioration problems.
Standing on the edge hasn’t caused warping problems for me.

Excellent !! Thank you. This is exactly the information I was looking for.

I am going to try these…
https://www.amazon.com/White-Paper-Sleeves-Gram-Window/dp/B002Z6QE48

Do you know of any that are better quality ?

Thanks.

Those are exactly the sleeves I use.
Down to the model number. PSLV-4CW No Window .
Amazon is out of them right now & that is where I bought mine.
I bought a 1000 case & that lasts a while.

Thank you for confirming the information for me.

I ordered them, and apparently I got the last one in stock.

I will post after I receive them and get a chance to see if they are still well manufactured.

Many thanks.

I would call the cases good quality.
Usually the edges are a bit tight so I just expand the case with my hand.
Also Push open the flap holding tab before inserting the DVD.
It’s easier for me that way.

I used to just use a pen to write the tittle.
I now Print the tittle on the case with my printer.
I use Word Pad for this to get the Print page like I want it.

It’s a lot easier for me to read the tittle this way.