Seamless Layer Break

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#1

How can I tell if my Dvd player supports the seamless option? Is seamless the best way to go if a DVD player supports seamless?

Thanks,


#2

Burn one with the seamless box checked & try it, yes it is the better way.


#3

If you have the original disk then just use read and you will have the original layer break.


#4

Seamless is the best way to go, if your player supports it (most seem to). That way, you will never notice the layer break, which is soooo annoying, IMO.

Regards


#5

The problem with this is most people like to use ‘read’ mode in ImgBurn, and this does not allow the “seamless” setting. You have to rip to harddrive first and then you lose your ability to make a 1:1 copy.


#6

[QUOTE=BoSox2882;2040147]The problem with this is most people like to use ‘read’ mode in ImgBurn, and this does not allow the “seamless” setting. You have to rip to harddrive first and then you lose your ability to make a 1:1 copy.[/QUOTE]

wats good for 1:1 ?


#7

You get 1 for 1 either way, ISO Read/ISO Write or full rip & use ImgBurn in Build Mode. :cool:


#8

Actually, if you delete the MDS file ImgBurn has to parse the IFO files to ‘guess’ at potential layer break positions in the same way it does it in Build mode.

I’m pretty sure you can enable the ‘Seamless’ option that way.


#9

[QUOTE=LIGHTNING UK!;2040266]Actually, if you delete the MDS file ImgBurn has to parse the IFO files to ‘guess’ at potential layer break positions in the same way it does it in Build mode.

I’m pretty sure you can enable the ‘Seamless’ option that way.[/QUOTE]

thx LUK :bow:

Imgburn :flower:


#10

[quote=LIGHTNING UK!;2040266]Actually, if you delete the MDS file ImgBurn has to parse the IFO files to ‘guess’ at potential layer break positions in the same way it does it in Build mode.

I’m pretty sure you can enable the ‘Seamless’ option that way.[/quote]

You can be 100% certain now.



#11

Thought I would post the log.

I 12:53:33 ImgBurn Version 2.4.1.0 started!
I 12:53:33 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3, v.3311)
I 12:53:33 Total Physical Memory: 3,145,196 KB  -  Available: 2,505,848 KB
I 12:53:33 Initialising SPTI...
I 12:53:33 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 12:53:33 Found 2 DVD±RWs and 2 DVD±RW/RAMs!
I 12:56:00 Operation Started!
I 12:56:00 Source File: G:\CS5D1\DVD_VIDEO.ISO
I 12:56:00 Source File Sectors: 3,818,080 (MODE1/2048)
I 12:56:00 Source File Size: 7,819,427,840 bytes
I 12:56:00 Source File Volume Identifier: DVD_VIDEO
I 12:56:00 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 331E6808
I 12:56:00 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 12:56:00 Destination Device: [2:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-215D 1.13 (I:) (SCSI)
I 12:56:00 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-001-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x)
I 12:56:00 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824
I 12:56:00 Write Mode: DVD
I 12:56:00 Write Type: DAO
I 12:56:00 Write Speed: 6x
I 12:56:00 Link Size: Auto
I 12:56:00 Test Mode: No
I 12:56:00 OPC: Yes
I 12:56:00 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 12:57:38 Optimal L1 Data Zone Start LBA: 1966432 (VTS_03, LU: 1, PGC: 2, Cell: 1, Vob/Cell ID: 1/1, Time: 00:00:00, SPLIP: No -> Yes)
I 12:57:38 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,966,432
I 12:57:38 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: IFO Cell Boundary, 'SPLIP' Flag Not Set
I 12:57:44 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)
I 12:57:46 Writing LeadIn...
I 12:57:47 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3818079)
I 12:57:47 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3818079)
I 12:57:47 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1966431)
I 13:06:48 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 1966432 - 3818079)
I 13:15:18 Synchronising Cache...
I 13:15:19 Closing Track...
I 13:15:24 Finalising Disc...
I 13:16:43 Exporting Graph Data...
I 13:16:43 Graph Data File: C:\Program Files\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-215D_1.13_FRIDAY-APRIL-18-2008_12-56_PM_MKM-001-00_6x.ibg
I 13:16:43 Export Successfully Completed!
I 13:16:43 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:20:42
I 13:16:43 Average Write Rate: 7,272 KB/s (5.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 8,402 KB/s (6.1x)
I 13:16:43 Cycling Tray before Verify...
I 13:17:13 Device Ready!
I 13:17:13 Operation Started!
I 13:17:13 Source Device: [2:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-215D 1.13 (I:) (SCSI)
I 13:17:13 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MKM-001-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x)
I 13:17:13 Image File: G:\CS5D1\DVD_VIDEO.ISO
I 13:17:13 Image File Sectors: 3,818,080 (MODE1/2048)
I 13:17:13 Image File Size: 7,819,427,840 bytes
I 13:17:13 Image File Volume Identifier: DVD_VIDEO
I 13:17:13 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 331E6808
I 13:17:13 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 13:17:13 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX
I 13:17:13 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3818079)
I 13:17:13 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3818079)
I 13:17:13 Verifying Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1966431)
I 13:22:57 Verifying Layer 1... (LBA: 1966432 - 3818079)
I 13:28:06 Exporting Graph Data...
I 13:28:06 Graph Data File: C:\Program Files\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-215D_1.13_FRIDAY-APRIL-18-2008_12-56_PM_MKM-001-00_6x.ibg
I 13:28:06 Export Successfully Completed!
I 13:28:06 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:10:52
I 13:28:06 Average Verify Rate: 11,711 KB/s (8.5x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 16,646 KB/s (12.0x)
I 13:35:49 Close Request Acknowledged
I 13:35:49 Closing Down...
I 13:35:49 Shutting down SPTI...
I 13:35:49 ImgBurn closed!

#12

Just in case anybody is interested, the scan results are here


#13

I just did this as well with the movie 300. I just went into settings and under ‘read’ set the MDS to no, so it made no mds file. I then loaded the ISO and when I clicked ‘write’ it asked me to set layer break.

My question would be, during build mode it gave me a couple options, after the read and then write, it only gave me the original as an option.


#14

You can’t ‘pad’ anything when burning an image so the cell must already be positioned on an LBA that’s a multiple of the ECC blocking factor (i.e. 16)


#15

Which a well-mastered commercial disc should be.

Regards


#16

Im not sure what you guys mean. When I read the image as an ISO with no MDS it gave me one option the original. If there is no MDS how would it not give more options? When using build it gives me several.

So even without the MDS the ISO basically has the layerbreak saved?


#17

Because none of the other cells are aligned on an LBA that’s divisible by 16.

Only cells on an LBA divisible by 16 are valid for a layer break position.

In Build mode, it doesn’t matter about that because ImgBurn can insert ‘padding’ (empty sectors) to align the cells nicely.


#18

Awesome, thanks LUK! You guys are great, very knowledgeable and willing to help.

Awesome program.