Seagate's hybrid storage drive causing frustration for users

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Seagate’s hybrid storage drive causing frustration for users.

[newsimage]http://static.rankone.nl/images_posts/2011/02/2PeOYE.jpg[/newsimage]Seagate executives had high hopes for the success of their Momentus XT hybrid storage drives when the product hit the market last July. Unfortunately, some who have purchased the drive, which was billed as the “world’s fastest 2.5-inch hard drive,” have experienced nothing but frustration thus far.


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The spin-up stutter doesn’t really bother me with my Netbook, since the drive generally spins down when I’m sitting on a screen reading something or writing an e-mail. However, I’d imagine this would be frustrating in a desktop where you don’t actually hear the drive spinning up/down and then gets annoyed every time the PC hangs for a few seconds.

What I am surprised about is that nobody has tried creating a simple work-around.

As this is a 2.5” HDD which uses very little power anyway, for a desktop PC, it could easily be made to just spin continuously. One method would be for Seagate to release a desktop usage specific firmware for existing drives and have a jumper on newer hybrid drives where the user can choose whether to enable APM.

Another workaround would be to create a background utility that simply writes a kilobyte of data to a file on the drive every couple of seconds. The on-board SSD only caches frequent read operations, so this would not affect the SSD area. Even if the 1KB write took place every 5 seconds, this would not affect the drive’s performance, but should be enough to keep the drive constantly spinning.


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I don’t know why anyone would use one of these notebook drives in a desktop.

For Notebooks? availability of the Intel “Salt River” SSD drives (or even Intel Flash Cache) that many notebooks will accept make the seagate hybred drive little more than a gimick.and future footnote in HDD development.

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Sounds like it’s mostly just an issue for MacBook Pro systems? According to Seagate at least…


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[QUOTE=AllanDeGroot;2575910]I don’t know why anyone would use one of these notebook drives in a desktop.

For Notebooks? availability of the Intel “Salt River” SSD drives (or even Intel Flash Cache) that many notebooks will accept make the seagate hybred drive little more than a gimick.and future footnote in HDD development.

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Besides much higher capacity than an SSD & SSD-like performance compared to standard HDD, even 10K rpm desktop HDD’s can’t match the speed?
They’re also approximately 30% cheaper than an 80GB SSD!

It’s quick & easy to image an old HDD to the new hybrid … it’s a cheap upgrade that greatly enhances performance for old PC’s. It’s a bastard of a time transferring an ancient 120GB HDD to an 80GB SSD, not to mention that SSD’s are not properly supported by WinXP.

In addition, it’s a decent speed upgrade for NEW laptops that commonly come bundled with 5400 rpm HDDs, or even 7200rpm standard HDD’s.

An 80GB SSD is NOT enough room for a decent windows7 install with a few movies, MP3’s, Photo albums & etc, A 250/320/500GB HDD or Hybrid drive is.

I’ve noticed the issue with the hybrid drives … commonly when the PC has gone into sleep mode … and a user wakes the system, the hybrid HDD takes an inordinate amount of time to spin up & the system freezes for upto 5 minutes.

I’ve observed the freezing problem on 3 different PC’s with hybrid drives, but not PC’s without hybrid drives.

I’ve just flashed my Hybrid HDD with the new firmware a few minutes ago … so hopefully it makes a difference :slight_smile:

The Windows based flasher did NOT work - it installs itself to your HDD, reboots the PC & launches instead of the default OS … but failed to flash.

The Boot CD iso worked fine.


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Correction: While I typed “Salt River” the proper name for the intel micro PCI notebook card drives are “Soda Creek”

Close…

As for XP? I’m gradually phasing out XP because I believe that for XP "the handwriting is on the wall"
I still have a working XP install for my desktop It’s in a HDD that’s sitting on the shelf next to my desk
wrapped in an anti static bag it sits on top of the HDD that contains my Vista Ultimate installation.
what’s in the computer? Win7 Ultimate

Much as I like XP there is sufficient advantages to Vista or Win7 to upgrade if you can.
(I think Vista largely gets a bad rap from people who tried running it on hardware that
probably didn’t run XP all that well either)

And Either Vista or Win7 play better with SSD’s

Though I have only one system in my Area of responsibility that has any true SSD drives
and that was set up with Win7-Pro at initial setup,

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I’ve noticed the issue with the hybrid drives … commonly when the PC has gone into sleep mode … and a user wakes the system, the hybrid HDD takes an inordinate amount of time to spin up & the system freezes for upto 5 minutes.

I’ve observed the freezing problem on 3 different PC’s with hybrid drives, but not PC’s without hybrid drives.

I’ve just flashed my Hybrid HDD with the new firmware a few minutes ago … so hopefully it makes a difference :slight_smile:
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The new firmware hasn’t made a difference to the laptop - laggyness/freezing after wakeup.

The firmware flash totalled the windows 7x64 installation on my work desktop. I spent 4 hours out-of-action while my desktop restored from the system backup I made right before the HDD firmware flash. I’m glad I can follow instructions :iagree: