SE-W164 LightScribe

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#1

Got myself the external Samsung SE-W164(L) yesterday. Because of the lack of reviews for this new drive, i’m posting some test results i did.

Lets see, it supports:


              Write  Read
DVD+R:     16x    12x
DVD-R DL:   8x     8x
DVD+RW:    8x     8x
DVD-R:      16x   12x 
DVD-R DL:   4x     8x
DVD-RW:     6x    8x
DVD-ROM:    -    16x
CD-DVD:      -    48x
CD-R:         48x  40x
CD-RW:      32x  40x
Disk labeling: Best 36 min, Normal: 28 min, Draft: 20 min

Plug & play, nothing more simple then this. Setting up this drive took all but about 1min ( took longer to remove it from the box, then the actual setup ).

The system finds it as TSSTcorpCD/DVDW SH-W162L. Mine shipped with TS02 firmware, and a quick update with Samsungs ODD firmware Lifeupdater changed its firmware to TS03.

Here are some test results from TDK DVD+R ( 16x ) Media burned at 12x ( Kprobe 8x read speed used ):


Date                     : 29/03/2006 21:03:11
Model                    : 5-0-0-0 J:TSSTcorpCD/DVDW SH-W162L TS03
Disc                     : DVD+R , YUDEN000T03 [Taiyo Yuden Company Limited]
Speed                    : 8x
ECC blocks sum (PI/PIF)  : 8/1
Scanned range           : 0 - 2205067
Sampling count           : 127437
Errors                    : 0
PI Max                   : 10
PI Average             : 0,76
PI Total                 : 12136
PIF Max                 : 2
PIF Average            : 0,03
PIF Total                : 414

Now, I’ve compared these results to the same brand & speed done on the older W164 © version. And you will notice a vast improvement on the results ( the old review is available on this site ). I’ve done about 25 dvd burns, with a test about every 6 or 7 burns. The results stay between 0.70 & 0.95 PI Average, and stay at a PIF of 0.02 & 0.03. I’m no expert but i think these results are darn close to pressed dvd quality.

Any questions, ask away. I’ll drop in from time to time to answer them.


#2

The lastest firmware is TS04 (released yesterday) :wink:


#3

For the SH-W162L the TS03 is the latest firmware.
I own a W162L too and I have also very good results with Yuden000T03 media. :smiley:


#4

Yep, very sure its a SE-W164 :slight_smile:

The internal drive is a SH-W162L with TS03 firmware ( the lasted available on ODD Firmware LifeUpdate ). Havent seen the TS04 on LifeUpdate yet.


#5

Sorry i thougt the SE-W164 is a S162L :o


#6

read a review here


#7

Fake link to April fools topic. Post has been reported to the administrators.


#8

Overall the 162L has awesome burn quality. Really good!

Yep, seems the 164 is the external 162L

Also, did u scan the dvd in the samsung drive or move it to a liteon or other?

Thanks
WDA


#9

Yes, the SE-W164 has the internal drive of the 162L.

I did my scans using the Samsung itself. Didnt have any problems with it. I also scanned some older crap el-cheapo dvd’s and boy o boy … the quality difference was well … huge.

It was some old 4x Mam-e dvd’s that i bought a year or 2 ago. So i compared data written written on the old mam-e DVDs by the Samsung ( only at 2x written ), and new data written on tdk DVD+r 16x disks ( written at 12x ).

I stopped working with DVDs as backup almost a year or 4 ago, because the quality of the disks was so bad, that i ended up with half with bad data on the outer edges. The results have been surprising. With the old crap mam-e media showing PI average errors of about 250 times worse, and PIF almost 1000 times worse then the TDK. Also, for that test, i used auto speed. The TDK was able to read at 12x at the end, while the mam-e was up to 8x at the end ( the test was not exactly fair for the TDK, yet, it kicked the mam-e’s ass :wink: ).

You see why i gave up on DVDs for backups :wink: I bought several bad batches, and it tainted my opinion of data security on DVDs :frowning: The samsung combined with the tdk’s restored it ( and i’m happily moving mass amounts of data now from my aging hd’s ). I also tried it with a other old brand ( no name brand ) i still had, same bad deal, massive errors. Note to self: don’t go cheap on DVDs.

I’ve got a stack of Verbatim DVD+R 16x incoming ( expect them on tuesday ), so i’ll report data from those also. But from the reputation of Verbatim, i expect the tests results to be similar to the TDK’s.


#10

Thanks for reply m8.

What prog did u use for scanning the disk.

I looked in the newest CD/DVD Speed and the button is disabled.

Thanks
WDA


#11

Kprobe2. Works like a charm on the Samsung. Also tried Kprobe on a panasonic in my laptop, but didn’t work, so i can only use the Samsung for comparisons.


#12

Thanks a lot, getting now to try.

WDA


#13

For using DVDSpeed with the W162L you have to change some things in registry:

go to:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Ahead\Nero Toolkit\CD Speed\CD Quality]

search the “blocked” key and delete “Samsung, TSST” there, than DVD Speed should work.


#14

Thanks, heard there was a key that could be changed, never new which :wink:

Working a treat!

Thanks.
WDA