Scans of aging and older CD media

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#301

Tesco 48x CD-R (made by DST Taiwan on Toolex Optiliner lines), burned about 7 years ago.



#302

Unlabeled 90 min Primedisc CD-R (made in Germany by Primedisc Technologies Gmbh on Toolex Optiliner lines), burned about 100 months ago.



#303

Unlabeled 90 min Primedisc CD-R (made in Germany by Primedisc Technologies Gmbh on Toolex Optiliner lines), burned about 102 months ago.



#304

Benq 48x CD-R, burned about 9,5 years ago.




#305

Tesco 52x CD-R, burned more than 3 years ago.
initial scan



#306

Octron CD-R 80 Silver Blue 700MB 80MIN [B]12x[/B] SPEED
Sold in jewel case
"This disc has been produced in accordance with Orange Book Standards"
J605K010173065D21 80
Just copied it to hard disk without problems.
Probably burned in 2000 ([B]13 years old[/B]) or maybe 2001?


#307

Sky CD-R (made in Switzerland by (made in Switzerland by SkyMedia Manufacturing on Steag Hamatech 2503 CD-R lines), burned 9 years ago.
no initial scan



#308

Swisstec 52x CD-R (made in Switzerland by SkyMedia Manufacturing on Steag Hamatech 2503 CD-R lines), burned 9 years ago.
no initial scan



#309

Traxdata 52x CD-R, burned in 2002 or 2003.
no initial scan



#310

Sony ‘Supremas’ CD-R 700MB (No rated speed stated)
ATIP: 97m24s16f (Sony)
Stamper Code: V5-0069
Hub Code: UF04B17270452 5 80C1 (stamped into disc)
Country of origin not stated (packaging has address for Sony Recording Media in Austria)
Discs purchased in mid-2004 (25 jewel case box)

Writer: LG GCE-8320B 1.04 (speed not known, probably 32x Z-CLV)
Disc written in late-2004 or early-2005 (~10 years old)

IIRC, many people had concerns about the longevity of these Sony CD-R. No previous scans are available, but I can’t believe they looked much better than this when new. :smiley:

The frequent low-level E31 errors are probably a feature of this writer, and the spike is about where it changed zones.



#311

Sony DW-G120A (fw MYS6), written at 24x.
Written in October 2007 (7+ years old, stored in a zip-up case)

Imation 1-52x CD-R 700MB
ATIP: 97m22s67f (Daxon)
Made in Malaysia
Discs purchased in mid-2006 (100 disc spindle)

The initial Benq DW1655 scan was lost, but I don’t think this disc is showing any signs of degradation. The re-scan is as good as any disc from this pack ever was, and there are no visible signs of oxidation or peeling.

Re-scanned February 2015:

Initial scan from October 2007 performed with a Lite-On SOHR-5239V. (Remember these dives do not produce results comparable to earlier Lite-On CD-RW drives.)



#312

Here’s a scan of a Kodak “CD-R Gold Ultima” burned sometime around 1999.

ATIP: 97m27s45f

Scanned on a Liteon LTR-52246S CD-RW drive on an old version of Nero CD-DVD Speed.

Seems to have held up quite well over the last 15 years, especially given it was stored in a CD wallet and is quite scratched.



#313

[QUOTE=BuuBox;2758258]Here’s a scan of a Kodak “CD-R Gold Ultima” burned sometime around 1999.

ATIP: 97m27s45f

Scanned on a Liteon LTR-52246S CD-RW drive on an old version of Nero CD-DVD Speed.

Seems to have held up quite well over the last 15 years, especially given it was stored in a CD wallet and is quite scratched.[/QUOTE]
Welcome to the forum. It is always nice to see scans of these old discs.

Are you able to re-scan the disc at 48x? That was the standard speed for Lite-On CD-RW drives, 52x was too fast.

Is there a reason for using an old version of CD Speed? A later version should work with that drive and the results would be more comparable (IIRC the way things were calculated changed). v4.7.7.16 was the final version before Nero started making life difficult, or you can use Opti Drive Control.


#314

[QUOTE=Ibex;2758267]Welcome to the forum. It is always nice to see scans of these old discs.

Are you able to re-scan the disc at 48x? That was the standard speed for Lite-On CD-RW drives, 52x was too fast.

Is there a reason for using an old version of CD Speed? A later version should work with that drive and the results would be more comparable (IIRC the way things were calculated changed). v4.7.7.16 was the final version before Nero started making life difficult, or you can use Opti Drive Control.[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately the only PC I have with an IDE port is an old Pentium 3 1.4 GHz system running Windows 98SE.

I’ve ordered a Startech.com PCIE IDE controller to fix this.

The sad thing is I have a 10 pack of current Kodak branded 52x CD-R media (made by Moser Baer) which scan worse than the 15 year old disc. :eek:


#315

Kodak stopped producing their own discs many years ago (c.2001-2, IIRC). Indeed the company itself went bankrupt a while ago.

The modern Kodak discs have nothing at all to do with Kodak, someone else has licensed the name and puts it on any old cheap media.

You are lucky yours are Moser Baer. Not sexy, and these days the scans won’t be anything special. But, unless you get a really bad batch, they are good honest everyday discs with inherent stability problems (that I am aware of) in over 12 years of production.

Most Kodak CD-R seem to be discs made by Umedisc, and there have been many cases of their CD-R degrading and becoming unreadable after as little as a month.

Newer versions of CD-DVD Speed should work fine under Windows 98SE - I’ve used them myself. And reducing the scanning speed a bit should improve the scan. The rise in errors towards the end of the disc is probably more indicative of the reading performance of the drive than the quality of the disc. For this reason the forum standard speed for Lite-On CD-RW was 48x. 52x was always too fast and oftern showed a rising error rate on even the best discs.


#316


#317

Titanum CD-R Plasmon 97m27s18f





#318

No name 90 min CD-R (96m43s37f, made in Germany by Primedisc), burned in 3/2005.


#319

Platinum 32x CD-R
Burned 15 years ago with Sony CRX-175A1 @24x




#320

Platinum 40x CD-R
Burned 14 years ago with LiteOn LTR-48125S @16x

The BenQ allows no scanning because of read errors.
Maybe because of it’s a raw copy of a Safedisc V2.5 protected PC-Game (Stronghold).
But it installs the game and allows it to start.