SATA Hardrive seems slow after Nero CD burning problem solved?

OK I’ve searched and searched all about DMA and burning problems but I’m still concerned that my SATA hardrive has slowed down after I fixed the burning problem I had. My DVD/RW died, it was my first one, 6yrs old, Pioneer that didn’t impress me much as I didn’t even burn with it much so I purchased a new ASUSDRW-2014L1 drive with Nero 7 and installed it. Then I had a problem with burning an audio CD and after a quick search I saw all about DMA issues. DMA was not enabled on the new DVD/RW drive so I changed it in Device Manager and it now says UDMA 4 but no luck, still wouldn’t burn, so I completely uninstalled Nero with the CleanTool and reinstalled it and problem solved. BUT now my SATA drive seams to have slowed down, especially when you select any sort of media file, not documents. Just highlighting a selection of files causes the CPU to max 100% in Task Manager (it drops right back down again) and the mouse cursor gets all jerky?
I have 3 HDD’s 2 raptors in RAID with OS installed and one Seagate SATA (which I’ve been burning audio files from) plugged into my Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe motherboards SATA ports. Nero log files say that the DVD/RW is DMA=On but HDD’s =Off. Is this just a coincidence or what?
OS is Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 with ALL updates installed and .NET framework packs etc. AVG Antivirus and Sysclean tool report no virus. I don’t burn much audio but the occasional TV program to DVD but I do copy DVD’s to HDD for viewing in MCE.
Also after looking at many other peoples posted log files I too don’t have the Nero ASPI file path listing at the top, not sure what that’s all about.
Your help would be much appreciated thanks.
Cheers,
Simon.

Get the free version of HD Tune and run some tests.

http://www.hdtune.com/download.html

Under ‘Info’ it should also give info on which UDMA version is Active.

Also note Nvidia chipsets can be problematic for some.

MysticEyes,

Here’s the screen shots from HD Tune. Oh that won’t work!
Here’s the benchtest results from HD Tune …

HDD: Seagate ST3160827AS (160 GB) NTFS
Transfer Rate
Min: 28.0 MB/sec
Max: 56.8 MB/sec
Avg: 45.9 MB/sec

Access Time: 13.0 ms
Burst Rate: 109.3 MB/sec
CPU Usage: 10.1%

Here’s the info …
Standard: ATA/ATAPI-6 - SATA I
Supported: UDMA Mode 6 (Ultra ATA/133)
Active: UDMA Mode 6 (Ultra ATA/133)
Buffer: 9192 KB

This is the extra drive I’ve got plugged into SATA port4 that I’m burning the audio files (mp3) from but my system drives are two Raptors in Nvidia RAID, HD Tune doesn’t show the DMA and there’s 25 GB space free.

Would you believe it I tried to burn an audio CD today and Nero didn’t finish. “Could Not Perform End Of disk-at-once”! and I thought I’d fixed this problem. I haven’t changed any Nero Options but to burn at 8x which is the slowest it will show and finalize and verify disk. I’m burning 77mins though on an 80min disk which I usually do with no problems in the past. I’m using Imation CD-R “Music” 80min CD’s.

To cut this thing short … here’s the first part of the Nero log …
Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -

NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 7.11.10.0
Internal Version: 7, 11, 10, 0
(Nero Express)
Recorder: <ASUS DRW-2014L1> Version: 1.00 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.11.10.0
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : via Inquiry data
Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder
CD-ROM: <ASUS DRW-2014L1 >Version: 1.00 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.11.10.0
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : NVIDIA STRIPE 68.95G nvraid Port 0 ID 1 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : ASUS DRW-2014L1 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD360GD-00FLA2 nvatabus Port 3 ID 0 DMA: Off
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD360GD-00FLA2 nvatabus Port 3 ID 2 DMA: Off
DiskPeripheral : ST3160827AS nvata Port 4 ID 0 DMA: Off

and here’s the end with error …
1:42:11 PM #38 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 245
<F: ASUS DRW-2014L1> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 350463 (558FFh), length 0 blocks

1:46:05 PM #39 SPTI -1194 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 181
CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1194)
Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x73
Sense Qual: 0x04
CDB Data: 0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x71 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 73 04

1:46:05 PM #40 CDR -1194 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1874
PMA update failure
F: ASUS DRW-2014L1

1:46:05 PM #41 TRANSFER -24 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1874
Could not perform end of Disc-at-once

1:46:05 PM #42 SPTI -1169 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 181
CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1169)
Sense Key: 0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
Sense Code: 0x04
Sense Qual: 0x08
CDB Data: 0x35 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 04 08

1:46:05 PM #43 CDR -201 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 292
Invalid write state
F: ASUS DRW-2014L1

1:46:05 PM #44 TRANSFER -24 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 292
Could not perform end of Disc-at-once

1:46:05 PM #45 SPTI -1023 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 181
CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1023)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x2C
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0x55 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 3C 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 2C
Buffer x0483ca40: Len x3c
0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 32 01 C4 08 00 00 00
0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 96 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

1:46:06 PM #46 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767
Burn process failed at 8x (1,200 KB/s)

1:46:06 PM #47 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 863
DRM: DRM burn session terminated.

1:46:06 PM #48 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 892
DRM: Closing entire DRM handling. Bye.

1:46:06 PM #49 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 287
SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME

1:46:06 PM #50 SPTI -1169 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 181
CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1169)
Sense Key: 0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
Sense Code: 0x04
Sense Qual: 0x08
CDB Data: 0x1B 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 04 08

1:46:06 PM #51 SPTI -1169 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 181
CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1169)
Sense Key: 0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
Sense Code: 0x04
Sense Qual: 0x08
CDB Data: 0x1B 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 04 08

1:46:06 PM #52 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 11411
DriveLocker: UnLockVolume completed

1:46:06 PM #53 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 450
UnLockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL

Existing drivers:

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

Like I said in my original post after searching and looking at other people’s logs what’s this ASPI business? Some people have the path to Nero at the top of the log file and some don’t, like me. Is it the version of Nero you use…?

Once again any help would be much appreciated thanks.
Cheers,
Simon.

Your drive speed although not the fastest should be more than adequate.

As far as ASPI I don’t think that is your problem either. Nero 6 used Ahead’s ASPI, but it would appear that starting with Nero 7 they have moved to NT-SPTI.

Although I have a SATA system I’ve chosen to run my rig in IDE mode. Makes life a bit easier as I have no need for RAID or AHCI and everything is shown in ways I’m familiar with.

Here’s one of my Nero logs:

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -

NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 7.10.1.2
Internal Version: 7, 10, 1, 2
(Nero Express)
Recorder: <Optiarc DVD RW AD-7200A> Version: 1.09 - HA 1 TA 1 - 7.10.1.2
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-115D>Version: 1.18 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.10.1.2
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : SAMSUNG HD321KJ atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6V200E0 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-115D atapi Port 3 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : Optiarc DVD RW AD-7200A atapi Port 3 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : NERO IMAGEDRIVE2 2.26 imagedrv Port 4 ID 0 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-115D G: CdRom0
Optiarc DVD RW AD-7200A H: CdRom1
NERO IMAGEDRIVE2 I: CdRom2

You’ll note that I use Nero Version: 7.10.1.2 which has been reported to be the most stable version. Seeing as I have no problems I see no reason to update.

As far as all your DMA stuff it appears that Nero has trouble reading Nvidia chipsets properly.

The normal advice would be to try different media. Your partial log doesn’t list what you used. If it showed CMC or Ritek you’d get the usual ‘use Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden’.

You could try another burning app. ImgBurn (free) would be a good choice, but in the final wash I think you’ll find some answers here:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/f85/sony-710a-pma-update-failure-125958/#post1026840

MysticEyes,

Firstly thanks for the reply. My ASUS DRW-2014L1 drive is plugged into the Primary IDE channel; master with an 80 ribbon cable, the secondary channel is not used. In Device Manager it says it uses the Primary IDE Channel, UDMA Mode 4, Port 0 with Microsoft driver ver 5.1.2600.2180 01/Jul/01. The sata drive uses the NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller with Nvidia driver ver 10.3.0.42 18/Aug/08 now that I’ve updated it please see below.

[QUOTE=MysticEyes;2232146]The normal advice would be to try different media. Your partial log doesn’t list what you used. If it showed CMC or Ritek you’d get the usual ‘use Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden’.[/QUOTE]
I’m using Imation CD-R “Music” 80min CD’s aren’t these supposed to be on par with Verbatim? The first thing I did was change from using TDK. I’ve used Nero InfoTool4 to read the Imation disk and it says the manufacturer ID is CMC Magnetics. I also have Sony SUPREMAS Technology CD-R 700MB 48x and NeroInfoTool4 says manufacturer ID is Sony. I also have [B]Verbatim[/B] CD-R 700MB 52x 80min and NeroInfoTool4 says manufacturer ID is CMC Magnetics! I’ve tried them all with the same result!

[QUOTE=MysticEyes;2232146]Although I have a SATA system I’ve chosen to run my rig in IDE mode. Makes life a bit easier as I have no need for RAID or AHCI and everything is shown in ways I’m familiar with.[/QUOTE]
I’d prefer to try other things before reverting to Windows drivers instead of Nvidia’s so I’ve updated to the latest Nvidia drivers, downloaded from there website version “15.23_nforce_winxp32_international_whql” and the listings has changed a little in Device Manager. i.e. under Disk Drives they are now listed as “SCSI Disk Device” instead of just the model number and under IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers it now says “DMA Mode” instead of “1.5G Sata 1”
Another change that has happened is that on the notification on the task bar when I click on the “Safely Remove Hardware” icon is no longer shows the sata drives.

I tried the exact same audio compilation and Nero didn’t stop with “Could Not Perform End Of Disk-at-Once” error but instead it said “Burn Completed Successfully at 8x” and then verification failed and the disk is unplayable.

After reading more threads I found people with Nvidia chipsets have removed the SM Bus driver and had results. So I tried this leaving a yellow explanation mark in Device Manager but it didn’t make any difference either.
I found a new firmware update for my Asus drive, from ver1.00 to ver1.01 but this didn’t make any difference either.

[QUOTE=MysticEyes;2232146]You’ll note that I use Nero Version: 7.10.1.2 which has been reported to be the most stable version. Seeing as I have no problems I see no reason to update.[/QUOTE]
Do you really think that I should revert to this version instead? I have no idea how I would from Nero’s website anyway?

I’ve been having trouble trying to revert to the Microsoft drivers as Windows will automatically reinstall them at boot up? And don’t forget my OS is installed on Nvidia RAID0.
My Leadtek Geforce 6800 Ultra graphics card driver is rather old. Would this have anything to do with it?
And I still feel that the SATA drive is slow or slower than before I installed the new Asus drive and Nero7.
BTW I can burn DVD’s at 4x (I’ve always used this speed) with NeroVision no problems at all. Good quality too.

Just for the fun of it I installed Nero7 on my mother’s old Compaq Laptop, an Intel 1Gig CPU, 256MB Ram and IDE drive and it burned at 8x successfully with the Imation CD-R “Music” 80min CD and noticeably the verification was reading 4-5 times faster and completed successfully too!

Once again any help from where to go from here would be much appreciated thanks.
Regards,
Simon.

Maybe trying Roxio 2009 Ultimate will solve your burning issues? Are firmware of the drives up to date? Good Luck

[QUOTE=THE C.;2235119]Maybe trying Roxio 2009 Ultimate will solve your burning issues?[/QUOTE]Why?

[QUOTE=THE C.;2235119]Are firmware of the drives up to date? Good Luck[/QUOTE]Well Yes for the Asus DVD/RW drive but do you mean the seagate sata HDD? If so I didn’t know you could update them.
Cheers,
Simon.

THE C.

OK I’ve checked seagate and here is what I found about firmware updates:http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=206091

You were probably thinking of this issue that seagate has with certain drives:http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=207931
Does not apply to my model ST3160827AS seagate SATA HDD.
Cheers,
Simon.

[QUOTE=echidna_nz;2235639]Why?
Well Yes for the Asus DVD/RW drive but do you mean the seagate sata HDD? If so I didn’t know you could update them.
Cheers,
Simon.[/QUOTE]

JMO Roxio has better performance over Nero. Don’t get me wrong I still have Nero 6 Ultimate on one of my machines and to me that was the last really good thing from Nero. As for firmware, its always good to check when problem solving. I am glad you researched Seagate’s website. I hope you the best.