Samsung SH-S203D - SB00 Data Verification Errors in Nero with MBI

[darshanjog]

Hello,

I guess the Title says it all but, let me explain. I've recently got myself a new burner the Samsung SH-S203D with the F/W SB00 (that's the latest).

Till date everything was fine and suddenly today I'm getting Data Verification Errors while burning in Nero.

The errors/unreadable (Red) Sectors are at the end of the disc. I tried burning the same compilation twice on same media at 16x and then at 8x.

Still it's the same. Who is to blame?

Don't give me that MBI is crappy and all that. I know that but all these years I have been using them extensively and never have I faced this prob. Scans might be poorer compared to TYs and other quality media but, never a Read Error or Verification Failure or a Unreadable Red Block.

OS: Windows Vista Business
Software: Nero 7 Premium 7.11.6.0
Media: MoserBaer 16x Certified Media

<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td>[FONT=arial][SIZE=-1]Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#505050"> Basic Information</td><td bgcolor="#505050">
</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#e0e0e0"> Disc type:</td><td> DVD-R</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#e0e0e0"> Book Type</td><td> DVD-R</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#e0e0e0"> Manufacturer:</td><td> unknown</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#e0e0e0"> MID</td><td> MBI 01RG40</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#e0e0e0"> Write speeds:</td><td> 4 X - 6 X - 8 X - 12 X - 16 X</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#e0e0e0"> Blank Capacity</td><td> 4.38 GB</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
</td><td> 4489 MB</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
</td><td> 4707319808 bytes</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#505050"> Extended Information</td><td bgcolor="#505050">
</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#e0e0e0"> Layers</td><td> 1</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#e0e0e0"> Usage</td><td> General</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#e0e0e0"> Copyright protection</td><td> n/a</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#e0e0e0"> Recorder information</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#e0e0e0"> Disc Status</td><td> Closed</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#505050"> Raw Data</td><td bgcolor="#505050">
</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#e0e0e0"> Pre-recorded Information in Lead-in (0Eh)</td><td>
</td></tr></tbody></table>
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0000 - 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 85 0D 10 88 9A 80 00 - .@....R.........
0010 - 03 4D 42 49 20 30 31 00 04 52 47 34 30 00 00 00 - .MBI.01..RG40...
0020 - 05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00 35 27 4D 77 30 72 33 00 - ........5'Mw0r3.
0030 - 24 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 FC 06 11 00 00 00 00 00 - $...............
0040 - 70 00 00 00 03 F9 EE FF FF FF FF FF 3D F7 4C 77 - p...........=.Lw
0050 - E9 F7 4C 77 D4 01 11 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - ..Lw............
0060 - 00 00 00 00 0C 01 11 00 58 BA 11 00 48 02 11 00 - ........X...H...

The Scans below are of the Media Burned @ 16x and Scanned at 8x and then Burned @ 8x and Scanned also at 8x.

[mciahel]

Looks like a bad batch for me.

[darshanjog]

[QUOTE=mciahel;2053653]Looks like a bad batch for me.[/QUOTE]
Hmmm…

I had about 50 os these discs. Already burned 25-30 with no probs. These two are the first ones

Do you still think it is a bad batch?

You feel nothing else is wrong?

[mciahel]

Hi,

since the problems start at the edge of the disc, I suspect an issue with these particular discs.
A visual inspection using a good lamp might reveal impurities in that region.

Michael

[darshanjog]

[QUOTE=mciahel;2053931]Hi,

since the problems start at the edge of the disc, I suspect an issue with these particular discs.
A visual inspection using a good lamp might reveal impurities in that region.

Michael[/QUOTE]
How do I do that or is it a job experts?

Should I try some other brand? Any other cheap one?

Not my precious TYs as I sourced them from an importer and are very expensive.

[mciahel]

[quote=darshanjog;2053939]How do I do that or is it a job experts? :p[/quote]Just use your eyes, maybe a magnifying glass and a bright lamp and see if there are dust particles, fingerprints or other irregularities.

Should I try some other brand? Any other cheap one?
You could do that also. Even another spindle of the same media might be better (or worse).

[darshanjog]

[QUOTE=mciahel;2053948]Just use your eyes, maybe a magnifying glass and a bright lamp and see if there are dust particles, fingerprints or other irregularities.
You could do that also. Even another spindle of the same media might be better (or worse).[/QUOTE]
OK great I’ll try to do that

Since, you are talking about media I assume that you don’t suspect anything else i.e., the Burner or SATA Cable ?

I’ll try some other media and let you know what happens.

Man I’ll be burning the same data the THIRD time

[pinto2]

since the problems start at the edge of the disc, I suspect an issue with these particular discs.

How do I do that…
When you have issues with discs like this and burning movies, you can set “custom” size in DVD Shrink.
Settle with a compression to ~4000MB. You won’t be able to see the difference when watching movie.

[darshanjog]

[QUOTE=pinto2;2054458]When you have issues with discs like this and burning movies, you can set “custom” size in DVD Shrink.
Settle with a compression to ~4000MB. You won’t be able to see the difference when watching movie. ;)[/QUOTE]
Hmmm…

But, I was burning files on the DVD not movies. I’ll be getting some other media (probably some cheap stuff) today to test it.

Will post back my findings here.

[darshanjog]

OK I got a cheap DVD-R called Amkette 16x -R for 35c and it turned out to be a Verbatim.

Must be trash which Verbatim sold to them as they are not a good brand.

But, it burned successfully and when I finished the scandisk all sectors were readable.

Burn Qualit scan was fine upto 80% @ 95 and then there were some failures or something, it dipped down to 70.

Take a look at the scandisk screenshot.

[mciahel]

OK I got a cheap DVD-R called Amkette 16x -R for 35c and it turned out to be a Verbatim.

Just media made in some dark chinese kitchen with “borrowed” MCC MID. We call them Fake media (or Fake crap).

Must be trash which Verbatim sold to them as they are not a good brand.
It is trash, but not made by Verbatim;)