My comments regarding: Reaction Posted by jab1981 on 23 February 2005 - 13:32 "I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that while I'm sure the recording industry is keenly interested in what you call crap... I don't think they're at all concerned with the "crap" you don't "buy".... Oh yeah jab1981? Who the HELL do you think pays their bills? The CONSUMERS; if people find out something is crap and they don't buy it that means they LOSE revenue, plain and simple. (I say "they" because I personally am boycotting the MPAA and RIAA, because I'll be damned if my money goes to corrupt primarily FOREIGN entities who buy laws, and are trying to buy laws from U.S. Senators and Congressmen to destroy technology, secretly support policeware, spyware, make PRIVACY a crime, and "redefine" the definition of Fair Use into a perverted, disgusting corporate whore version of it) "...but rather the music that you steal." ..."I don't like Stephen King novels. That doesn't give me the write to yank them off book store shelves. I absolutely detest most Sony products, but I don't have the right to steal it." Pull your head out jab1981, Ever hear of a PUBLIC LIBRARY? Guess what? When tens of thousands of Americans or millions worldwide walk into a public library and read Stephen King novels then you can call that "stealing" as well, because the copyright holder doesn't get a single dime from the individual consumer. (noone is required to pay them under law, and millions upon millions would be DAMNED if they are ever charged for renting or reading copyrighted library materials) In some cases the Library has agreements to compensate the copyright holder to some extend unless a work is donated to them. But the millions of Americans who use our God given freedom to enjoy Public Libraries has been enjoyed for over 200 years jab1981. From your point of view and from the Entertainment Industries--that makes over 295,000,000 Americans "pirates" and countless foreigners "pirates" who use American Libraries. One could argue again that because of Public Libraries, billions of dollars of lost revenue occur every year (with your mentality). I have read dozens of books for free in this free country and I do not intend to compensate the copyright holder, ESPECIALLY if the Author writes "Crap" --akin to the the film industry releasing "Crap" -same principle. If he's a great author I might have the INCENTIVE to support him or her and buy his book, EVEN if I have already read it. Consumers decide if a company, or an artist is successful -not the artist, nor the company. It's all about information lockdown and control --if the masses don't know something sucks, then they won't know any better not to buy it and the fat cats will have to go cry in their beer and find another job or get some real skill and/or develop real quality. If it were up to these people you so misguidedly and ignorantly defend (a.k.a anyone who holds a copyright, or enforces one); they would start CHARGING to read books in the library, or rent movies,CD's or books, magazines etc. "That doesn't give me the write to yank them off book store shelves." --Excuse me, time for a wake up call, when you STEAL you are DEPRIVING the authorized dealer, owner, or retail outlet from a piece of QUANTIFIABLE MERCHANDISE, it SHOWS UP as a LOSS of INVENTORY. When you download something, the original copyright holder still POSSESSES their copyrighted work, they have lost NOTHING. If you and they think this is really stealing then you better not release anymore "works" at all or SHUT DOWN the Internet entirely, because it is UNSTOPPABLE PERIOD. jab1981 , if you have ever used a library and "consumed" (absorbed) ANY copyrighted information, including that contained in an encyclopedia, without buying that work personally, then you are a "pirate". Obviously this show the monumental flaws in your thinking as well as the basis of the DMCA. The ONLY thing that should be illegal regarding copyrights is if someone tries to make monetary gain of off selling a copyrighted work, such as copying a DVD and selling that DVD burned onto a blank on Ebay -THAT is the real threat, there is a huge difference, and any argument by you or the MPAA, RIAA, FBI, or Department of Justice is nothing more than pure spin to support monopolistic, power-mongering, obsolete business models. No musician on earth needs the RIAA with the freedom and power the Internet gives to the people. And lastly, Mel Gibson proved he didn't need the MPAA to make a movie, and a tremendously successful one at that. I happily spent the $8.20 to go support an independent filmmaker to see the Passion, knowing not one penny of my money was going to fuel lawsuits against college kids, ruining their lives and possibly their career. And not one penny went to an organization hell-bent on trying to make computers themselves effectively illegal without mandated hardware, ISP lockdown attempting to be imposed from continous, unrelenting pandering, disingenuous, egregious whining for new laws by the United States Government.