Well that gives me a starting point,
Newegg has some Lite-on drives with free shipping and a Pioneer, I currently use a Pioneer to burn after my old Benq died, also have a LG in another PC I burn with occasionaly
Have not had any problems with either of them burning but I have never used either for ripping and I knew a lot of burners were not strong on reading which brings us to why I posted the question.
Seems some place I remember seeing that ROM drives were better for ripping as reading was ALL they were made to do, but things change fast with technology and these days I only catch up when I have to,
I DO APPRECIATE THE HELP!!! THANKS!!!