RIAA lawyer up for judge position sparks concern over impartiality

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RIAA lawyer up for judge position sparks concern over impartiality.

[newsimage]http://static.rankone.nl/images_posts/2011/04/4l3FSG.jpg[/newsimage]Lawyer Katherine B. Forrest was recently recommended by NY senator Chuck Schumer as a potential new federal judge within the state's Southern District Court, which covers cases in Manhattan, White Plains and Middletown. A 20-year veteran in the field, Forrest handled IP law for a private firm before being appointed (.pdf) Deputy Assistant Attorney General for the Department of Justice's Antitrust Division. However, some worry her past as a litigator representing the RIAA against recently dismantled music sharing site Limewire may color future rulings if  her nomination is approved.


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Schumer is another scum bucket politician right up there with Chris Dodd. Want to bet this is a payback for present/future campaign contributions from the entertainment industry? This sure as heck isn’t a coincidence.


#3

The DemonCratic way.


#4

Pretty amazing how entrenched the content industry’s goons are in the US government now…


#5

Goons from everywhere are entrenched (i.e. bribing) in government at all levels. Everyone from Wall Street to the AARP is buying off politicians. It is the main reason the country is circling the drain and no one in elected office seems to give a $hit as long as the cash keeps flowing to them.


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[QUOTE=UTR;2585308]Goons from everywhere are entrenched (i.e. bribing) in government at all levels. Everyone from Wall Street to the AARP is buying off politicians. It is the main reason the country is circling the drain and no one in elected office seems to give a $hit as long as the cash keeps flowing to them.[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately wall street won’t help you when you need it…AARP will be there long when your kicked to the curb…trying to put those two in the same room not is only disingenous downright but downright lie…one helps the rich and powerful and robs from the poor and less fortunate. So maybe you should rethink how you trying to be a revisionist…


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[QUOTE=coolcolors;2585312]Unfortunately wall street won’t help you when you need it…AARP will be there long when your kicked to the curb…trying to put those two in the same room not is only disingenous downright but downright lie…one helps the rich and powerful and robs from the poor and less fortunate. So maybe you should rethink how you trying to be a revisionist…[/QUOTE]

The AARP is selling out the very people they are supposed to protect. They are no better than the Wall Street people. They both play the same game. At least with the Wall Street guys they do little to hide their actions. Can’t say the same for the AARP. I guess they have snookered you like they have many other members.

Don’t believe me? Explain how the AARP can support Obamacare when is cuts $500 BILLION from Medicare? I can tell you why. It is because the AARP sells supplemental insurance to retirees and they cut a deal with Obama to have exclusive rights to sell policies to the elderly. This will line the pockets of those running the organization. The AARP are unethical slime just like the rest of the lobbyists buying influence at the expense of the general public.


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[QUOTE=UTR;2585317]The AARP is selling out the very people they are supposed to protect. They are no better than the Wall Street people. They both play the same game. At least with the Wall Street guys they do little to hide their actions. Can’t say the same for the AARP. I guess they have snookered you like they have many other members.

Don’t believe me? Explain how the AARP can support Obamacare when is cuts $500 BILLION from Medicare? I can tell you why. It is because the AARP sells supplemental insurance to retirees and they cut a deal with Obama to have exclusive rights to sell policies to the elderly. This will line the pockets of those running the organization. The AARP are unethical slime just like the rest of the lobbyists buying influence at the expense of the general public.[/QUOTE]

And there goes the same line spouted…again. How about doing some real independent research and thinking for once? I guess in your case that is a mission impossible. Everyone has to make a sacrifice but it sounds more like business and usual and keeping the status quo with the lines your making. Most people if not all fail to do some real hard question asking of those that spout those line as well. That is why the US is in the mess it is. NO ONE is willing to FACE the HARD FACTS but play the “KICK THE CAN DOWN THE LINE” games. And all this about current government transparency…is just hocky shocks…alot of LOADED BS…


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[QUOTE=coolcolors;2585364]And there goes the same line spouted…again. How about doing some real independent research and thinking for once? I guess in your case that is a mission impossible.[/QUOTE]

I guess you are looking to get another thread locked by making personal attacks?

What I posted isn’t a secret. It is out there for anyone to read about. In fact, it is likely going to be far worse since Obamacare is the tip of the iceberg. Wait until all these liberal bureaucrats generate tens of thousands of pages of healthcare regulations catering to paying off organizations like the AARP for supporting the bill. To quote Nancy Pelosi, “We won’t know what’s in the bill until we pass it.” For once she finally spoke the plain truth. We are still finding out just how screwed up Obamacare is proving to be. How many companies got waivers from providing full health insurance to their employees? Funny how the ones getting the waivers are unions, large corporations and those that can afford lobbyists. The small business owners are screwed again.

[QUOTE=coolcolors;2585364]Everyone has to make a sacrifice but it sounds more like business and usual and keeping the status quo with the lines your making. Most people if not all fail to do some real hard question asking of those that spout those line as well. That is why the US is in the mess it is. NO ONE is willing to FACE the HARD FACTS but play the “KICK THE CAN DOWN THE LINE” games. And all this about current government transparency…is just hocky shocks…alot of LOADED BS…[/QUOTE]

Reading more than just the Huffington Post, Daily Beast, NYT, WaPo etc. and you will see that almost any organization, corporation, union etc., that does large scale lobbying is doing it for selfish interests. Even at the expense of the members/shareholders they are supposed to protect. The USA is in horrible shape because politicians care more about acquiring, keeping and increasing power than doing the right thing. Both political parties are guilty but the Democrats seem to particularly have no shame or concern for the damage done in how they go about business. IMO, it is going to take a complete meltdown of society, the economy and the political system before we see real reform. Until real hardship actually hits everyone personally, most people don’t give a $hit about what is going on right under their noses. Well, there are going to get a whiff of something that smells REALLY bad in short order and it won’t be just the people in the USA that are effected.

We are getting off the track here so I am done sparring with you on this.

Do you live in the USA? For some reason I think you live in Australia.


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What’s the big deal? Have you looked at the Supreme Court in the last 5 years? Ideology has superceded impartiality and political philosophy has superceeded the legal thought processes of the US’ highest court ! The ascention of a corporate lawyer, regardless of the industry he or she currently serves is a crapshoot. Some will take the oath to be impartial and lawful, while others will simply conmtinue according to their previous loyalties. The history of the court system are littered with lame lawyers becomingg great judges and brilliant lawyers becoming atrocious judges, as well as everything in between these classic examples.
A judge is usaually a pposition for life, even as they are re-elected every decade or so. But the hevel of juriprudence they display is never public enough or have enough public commentary to show that one judge os a good judge and another is an insult to Americamn justice. Even when presented with volumes of evidence about a poor or incompetent, or just biases judge, the sysyem takrs years and years to remove the offender form the bench.
So. again I ask, What’s the big deal?


#11

Politicians from the two major parties are bribed by lobbyists. There is no arguing that.
The businesses & organizations with the most money to lobby & pay the best bribes are going to get the most legislation in their favor.
IMO the last Congress that could even be argued that was “for & by the people” of the USA was before WW2 Maybe even before WW1. It just has gotten continually worse since WW2 . It seems there is no fear of consequence & right now that is the case.
The apathy of the American people about this is part of the problem.
“We the people " are going to have to bear arms against the government . Hopefully in the end the US Constitution is the base used for the new government & we just wipe out all the other laws & start over.
The problem is if just one person or a small group starts this they are perceived as just lunatics. The militias in the US are closely watched & maybe a better word would be spied on. I do see those groups as being the lead in the next American Revolution . They just need to join together first. I hope soldiers in the US military refuse to fire on their own people & join the militias instead. There will be some that won’t .
If this doesn’t happen our freedoms will continue to disappear & we will be a “socialist” country . Which really means dictatorship.
I will quote a now old cliché " Better dead than Red” .


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I believe, against my hope and prayers, that the US, as we percieve it, is near-lost. As a veteran of the bloodsheed of war, I want no part of raising arms against my countrymen, regardless of how much I disagree with them. Unfortunately, that reasoning seems to evade the extreme right-wing and the extreme left-wing politicos of today. Hence the situation is two fold. Neither side will listen, ergo cannot negotiate for the survival of our nation, and as this dysfunction built on philosphy and ideology continues to imbed itself into the body politic, the prospect of another Civil War becomes more possible, hence the fear and threatening will continue to rise. Those who hold the money and power in this upheaval will not have to fight or suffer. They can manipulate the scared, angry, “common folks” to do it for them. It’s not about fighting the “gumint”, it’s about dieing for someone else’s greed. I, for one. refuse to play that game. Like the thousands of immagrants who fled Europe during the 1930’s and 1940’, so too will I seek sane pastures before I resort to killing.
Think carefully on this. Your life and your country hang in the balance.


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There will be no “war” in the classic sense in the USA. IMO, what will happen is the “U” in USA will cease to exist. I can see the seeds of this being sowed as each year passes. The USA is dividing into two camps. One is for fiscal/personal responsibility and individual freedom/rights. The second is for larger government at the expense of personal freedom and rights. We can see this divide happening at the state level across the country. Certain states are keeping their fiscal house in order and passing laws to protect their citizens from an overbearing federal government. Other states are continuing massive deficit spending and passing laws that are intended to extract more money from their citizens and create more reliance on the government and the federal government is doing the same thing.

It has come to the point that the feds will be taking from the fiscally responsible states and giving what they take to subsidize the poorly run states. This will not continue for long because the fiscally responsible states will reduce the federal government’s control over them by becoming autonomous. Things like not requiring their citizens to pay federal income tax etc. will become more common among more states. We will see these states form their own lose federation among themselves. Then the USA will morph into two distinct entities. The poorly run states will collapse economically and finally be forced to adopt austerity measures and put their fiscal house in order. Once they do this then maybe reformed states will joint the new federation of fiscally responsible states. IMO, this can all happen without a single shot being fired. The days of a classic Civil War like we had in the 1860s won’t happen. The fiscally responsible states and the irresponsible ones are too intermingled. It isn’t a geographic separation of the states like it was in the Civil War. We are reaching the fork in the road real soon on this and we are already seeing states position themselves for this to happen. The casualty in this process is the federal government as we know it. It will cease to exist and be replaced by the entity the fiscally responsible states create.


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I can’t say it better than these patriots who helped write the US Constitution. Who did not fear going against the most powerful government in the world at the time eg the British Empire. We owe it to those that sacrificed their lives to sustain what they started.

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
– Thomas Jefferson

“I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachment of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.” – James Madison

“It is a common observation here that our cause is the cause of all mankind, and that we are fighting for their liberty in defending our own.” – Benjamin Franklin

“A sacred respect for the constitutional law is the vital principle, the sustaining energy of a free government.” – Alexander Hamilton

Then these from some later leaders:
“No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its preservation.” – General Douglas MacArthur

“The history of liberty is a history of the limitation of government power.” – Woodrow Wilson

“Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship,support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.” – John F. Kennedy

“Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom.” – John F. Kennedy

And last from a couple of well knowm authors:
“It is a worthy thing to fight for one’s freedom; it is another sight finer to fight for another man’s.” – Mark Twain

Louis L’Amour book The Man Called Noon:
“here in western lands men were fighting ,again the age-old struggle for freedom and for civilization, which is one that always must fought for. The weak, and those unwilling to make the struggle, soon resign their liberties for the protection of poweful men or paid armies; they begin by being protected, they end by being subjected.”


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I’ve heard this series of “financial responsible” arguments in the past. However, history (recent history) has born out that the parties beating the drum for fiscal resonsabilities are the same parties that are pushing legislation to put the government into every asect of our lives. These interfereing laws would by necessity, force new and larger bureucracies to be formed to literally watch over everyone, all the time. Consider just one set of laws being pushed - those concerning pregnancy “control” over individuals and their physicians. Do you honestly believe that the government as decribed to by these “financially responsible” political parties would somehow be able to watch over all the doctors and their patients with just a handful of folks? It has not happened yet and it is doubtful that it will change just because the politicians say it will be different this time.
Secondly, these “finiancially responsible” state governments-have you really listened to their so called solutions? Wisconsin: cut and/or remove as much of the tax burden on industry and the wealthy as possible while destroying the average (you and ) folks from fighting for a living wage. Or Michigan: whose “fiscally responsible” governor wants to have the power to dissolve city and country governments because of financial debt AFTER the state hasa revolkeed to fair return oif state income and sales taxeds to those very same cities.

Your conceptual arguements seem clear on the surface, but even scratch slightly beneath the surface to see the plans and schemes of those who perpetuate these same arguements, makes your conceptual arguements false. For all the logical delineation through the entire current “responsible” arguements, the a priori arguement is “every man for himself” and no village, town. county, state or nation can continue for very long in that manner. It leads to chaos.

Seriuosly, think about the depth of your arguements. The deeper you go the cloudier the conclusions become, and if you induce the conclusions back to the original - the a priori basis., you masy be unpleasantly surprised, very unpleasntly…


#16

I think long term and big picture on this. You have bought the liberal class warfare dogma hook, line and sinker. The basic fact is that when their are more parasites than the hosts can support then a correction is inevitable. We are subject to the laws of nature just like any other living creature.

We have too many people living as parasites that have no reason they can’t be a host. The biggest parasite of all is government at all levels. Class warfare is just the parasites seeing another host to exploit. Unfortunately parasites can’t determine when they go too far and kill off, or cripple, too many hosts. Then the parasites finally are forced to be self sufficient or, in nature, they die.

States are becoming parasites and hosts too. The problem for parasite states is the host states will not let themselves be exploited. When host states determine they are better off separating fiscally from the USA, and their populations support separation, it will happen. Then the parasite states will have no choice but to change.

Many people think our world is frozen in place physically and politically. That massive change can’t, or won’t be allowed to, happen. The global warming movement is a prime example of this mentality. Does anyone really believe humans can stop climate change? It is a laughable premise. Did the Romans believe their empire would fall? Well, we, as a nation, are heading into uncharted waters and assuming the U in USA will always be there is far from given. If the federal government thinks they can force a state to remain in the USA ala the Civil War in the 1860s it will be sadly mistaken. It is coming to the point that a well run state will be better off not contributing fully to the federal government and taking the money and spending how they see fit in their state. The power of the federal government over the states is more fragile than mast people realize. The seeds of this separation is being sowed as each year passes. Look at the laws being passed by several states in the past few years. If this continues to grow it will reach critical mass and the federal government will be forced to morph into an entity that is greatly reduced in authority.

If the federal government changes direction and reduces its burden on the hosts in society the scenario I paint above can be avoided. If it doesn’t then I think the scenario occurring is inevitable.


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What laws have states passed in the last couple of years would make you believe that the USA will separate?


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The difference is todays politicians have no moral fiber & base their decisions on greed.
Outsourcing is a good example. This has taken a good part of the US job base. Even though we shouldn’t have had to support the parasites as long as there were ample jobs & enough more were working than weren’t it was possible. Add illegal aliens to that & the problem is even worse.
We need our US citizens working & paying taxes & spending the money here. We need to return to a manufacturing nation.
Illegals send as much of the money they make here to their own country as possible. So when you hear they are good for the economy it is not true. To further add to that a lot of illegals have a large family . So take a look at what it costs just for education for them. Say they just have 4 children . My state says it cost $8000.00 per child per year.
So for the 4 children that is $32000.00 . How many illegals are paying $32000.00 in taxes a year ? Not to mention many illegals get food stamps & section 8 .
Then we have US citizens that have done about the same. So we have way too much money going out & not enough coming in. It is some more excusable for US citizens to be getting government aid now that the jobs are outsourced. The problem is now the US just can’t afford it.
I hate the term " Government money " it is citizens tax money the government really doesn’t have its’ own money. It is paid by citizens that work days of their lives to pay it . Maybe they would rather spend the money they have worked for on themselves & their family than pay it as taxes. Taxes are a necessary evil to support a government but when excessive they amount to slavery . The 13th Amendment is supposed to stop slavery . I know of no other definition of being forced to pay taxes from my days of work to support someone not working & spending their days doing what they want. People need to get it in their head that the money paid as taxes is really days of someones life . That is what it takes to make the money . You don’t get that time back. When it is taken as taxes to support someone else it is slavery.

The founding fathers of the USA has moral fiber & made decisions that were good for the citizens of the USA. Even though some were considered wealthy.


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[QUOTE=silver30;2587495]What laws have states passed in the last couple of years would make you believe that the USA will separate?[/QUOTE]

Gun laws, laws opting out of Obamacare, Arizona’s law regarding border security etc. There are some state legislatures that have been pushing even more direct legislation to challenge the federal government’s authority over them. The momentum is building and if the federal government keeps becoming a larger burden this type of state legislation will mushroom through the fiscally responsible states. Especially if the feds do income redistribution across states. If CA, NY, IL etc. receive federal bailouts look for the $hit to hit the fan regarding state’s rights. I can tell you I am not working hard and paying taxes to bail out the idiots in California. If that happens I will be one of those pushing my state to seek a certain level of autonomy from the federal government.


#20

Cholla, it is all about parasites and hosts.