RIAA and AT&T, Comcast reportedly near agreements

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The Recording Industry Association of America could be getting a hand from the country’s two largest Internet service providers in combating piracy.Citing three anonymous sources "close to the…

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Don’t they realize their wasting their time and money? Everything is going to end up being encrypted so no one can tell what their uses are downloading/uploading.

Not to mention its not the government that is enforcing these rules, and there’s no way to dispute. Meaning the RIAA doesn’t need real evidence. And no dispute mechanism for the wrongly accused. Allthough I suppose there’s nothing from stopping an ISP from discontinuing your service. I know ISP’s are trying to use this to lower peoples bandwidth consumption, I hope people hit the isp’s in the pocket and find alternative isps.

The ISPs are cutting deals for the legal downloading of music from different labels. That’s how come this will work. The more music sold, the more they make. I think they are using this as practice for video as well. Soon, they will also police video downloads just watch. All they have to do is prove they can spot pirates and the money starts a rollin’. If they spank their subscibers it forces them to either stop illegal downloads or else start buying legal music. In this way the ISP is being “paid” to make their customers tow the line.

it is clever as it skirts the legal system completely and is efficient and cheap. I bet the contracts for new subscribers has plenty of warnings and also they have the right to drop your service if they feel you are doing something unlawful.

I always thought it was funny, thhat the people were getting busted for downloading Brittany Spears or Jacksons Thriller. While at the same time Comcast was HOSTING terabytes of warez on their news server!! Not once did I hear a threat from the RIAA or the MPAA for Comcast to quit hosting movies and music and warez- never. :clap:

Then, all of a sudden, they started backing away from usenet and finally dumped it all together. Now, they are wearing the white hat i guess.

If you start DL’ing gigabytes of encrypted files they will simply flag you as a pirate or worse yet- a terrorist or a child pornogrpher LOL. They don’t have to prove a darn thing. It is their right to kick you off the node for whatever reason they want. All they have to do is look at the traffic, where it originates etc. it doesn’t take a brain surgeon to know when someone is pirating. It also is not necessary to prove it. Just scare a few and get it in the media.

@CrabbyAppleton If the report is right…then it will just scare people away from comcast to Verizon, since verizon is being the only responsible one and saying screw you RIAA

It is already that way in some cases. Premium Providers servers use SSL 256 now. The ISP’s can tell that you are uploading/downloading something but can’t find out what it is.

Also, programs like Utorrent, use encryption to circumvent ISP throttling. Whether that hides what you are downloading from the ISP, I don’t know for sure though.

“I always thought it was funny, thhat the people were getting busted for downloading Brittany Spears or Jacksons Thriller. While at the same time Comcast was HOSTING terabytes of warez on their news server!! Not once did I hear a threat from the RIAA or the MPAA for Comcast to quit hosting movies and music and warez- never.”

They can’t touch them because the servers only “relay” and “share” the information with other servers around the world and don’t monitor it or something like that. I think they fall under the same category as the phone companies. Also, there would be no way to police it since the servers share information with each other.

Anyways, doesn’t matter nowadays. Most the of the major ISP’s, in the US, have dropped the binary groups from their news server services. If you want to download binaries from Usenet, you have to pay for a premium server now. This is how the RIAA and MPAA got rid of some of the illegal downloading from Usenet. But it only slowed it down just a little. Most people pay for Usenet so they can get good retention and completion rates, SSL encrytion, and access to vast groups.

Verizon is teh r0x0rs! $15 a month DSL and a big FU to the RIAA, you go, boys.