Questions About Read/Write and Drive Speed

Hi,

My name is Paul. I’m new here.
I am new to DVD but have some experience with CDs.

I have a Sony CD burner and a Samsung DVD burner in my
computer. I have a free version of Nero that was installed
by my computer shop. I also have NTI CD software.

I am trying to figure out just how all my drive speeds should
be set? When I click open My Computer and right click my
Sony CD drive I find the tab for recording speed.

OK, then if I right click on my Samsung DVD drive I find the
tab for recording speed.

Well, Which one should I enable? If I enable one the other
is then disabled.

From what I have read I am thinking I will use a 24X for
burning CDs and 8X for DVDs.

I did a Nero test and my CD disc got a rating of 31X
and my DVD around 12X for the media I am using.

When I looked at the speed selections by right clicking the
drive I don’t see any 24X? Should I set this to 32? Will the
software then go with 24X if I select it from the software?

Also looking at my read speed with Nero Drive Speed I see
my Sony is set at 8X. Should this be increased? It will go to
40X, I believe.

My Samsung is set at maximum but says current is 8X.

Nero Info Tool says:
Sony CD-RW CRX230E
Read 40X
Write 52X

TSST Corp CDDVDW SH-S202G
Read 48X
Write 48X

                   thank you!:cool:

Welcome to CDF’s:

Can you put in a disc of each using Nero Drive Speed’s Info Tab and post what the actual disc mfgr is please.

nepal76, as rolling56 said, you have to have a disc in drive to make any tests at all. Windows explorer won’t tell you anything. Nero CD/DVD Speed might. :wink:

[I]Off topic.[/I][QUOTE=rolling56;1942624]…Can you put in a disc of each using Nero Drive Speed’s Info Tab and post [B]what the actual disc mfgr is please[/B].[/QUOTE]Disc mfgr? Must be a new function in CD/DVD Speed not known to us. :bigsmile:
(All that might be shown on CD’s is dye manufacturer.)

I’m a bit confused?
My CD-Rs are Taiyo Yuden packaged as Maxell Pro.
My DVD-R’s are TDK, manufacturer unknown it says.

When I put a CD in my Sony drive Nero reads:
Read Speed 12X , current 12X

In my Samsung it reads:
Read Speed maximum , current 32X.

Apparently I have to right click my drive and enable CD
recording or it won’t read correctly. When I do it disables
the other drive and unchecks the box.

DVD test:

When I put DVD in my Samsung it reads:
Read Speed 8X, current 8X

The CDs are packaged as 48X.
The DVDs say 16X on package.

Is the read speed setting automatic?

When you put a disc in Nero will show you what the recording speeds are for CD’s and DVD’s in that particular drive. Burning CD’s and DVD’s can be tricky with the speed you set. More so with DVD’s. You will have to experiment with the speeds as some media burns better than at rated speed. This includes all drives.

Your TDK’s we need to see the mfgr on those using the Info tab like i explained. Are they Made In Taiwan, Japan? Your CD-R’s are good to go as they are Tayio Yuden’s. I would say try these at 16X or 24X for best quality burn.

Read speed is usually set to be the highest unless of course you are watching it if it’s a movie.

My Plextors you can set them to what speed you want them to read for reading back the disc.

Reading and rip speed are different. Rip speed actually puts the disc contents on your hard drive. Reading test (TRT) is for checking if the disc will read back the contents and nothing goes on your hard drive.

I hope i’m not confusing you more.

It’s starting to make more sense. I am somewhat confused still on the read speed. I’ll come back to that. I am probably also confusing things since I am talking about two drives. I had just the Sony CD burned and a CD-Rom. Then I recently replaced the CD-Rom drive with the Samsung DVD burner. So I have a Sony CD burner drive and a Samsung DVD burner drive.

I had already done a Nero disc info test on the TDK. It
quite seriously says Manufacturer unknown. They are the
ones out there that are 16X. I may have seen india on the
label but I’m not sure?

I did some more tests:

Sony CD drive
Media- TY CD-R

Average 31.50x
Start 18.44x
End 41.64x

Samsung DVD Drive
Media- TY CD-R

Average 35.73x
Start 20.93x
End 47.24

Samsung DVD Drive
Media- TDK? DVD-R

Average 12.06x
Start 6.71x
End 16.11x


On read speeds I’m confused on where or if there
is a setting? When I open Nero Drive Speed there is
a drop down box that allows selecting various read
speeds. To the right of this is Current and the current
read speed. It seems if I set the read speed with
the drop down box it changes according to the
current reading? How should this be set? To maximum?

While writing this I now get a Read Speed of
16x from Nero Drivespeed for the DVD-R??? what is going on?:stuck_out_tongue:
The last test was 8x?

Do I enable only one drive at a time by right clicking the drive
and selecting Enable CD recording? And how should the speed
be set here? There is no 24x. Do I select 16x or 32x if I want
24x? Does Nero and other software orerride this when I
select 24x as speed from within the software where 24x is
available? Does this make sense? :rolleyes: Do you know what I mean:bow:

Should I stick with one drive for all my burning? The Samsung?
Use 24x for CDs and 8x for DVDs?

I was burning my CDs at 8x. I assumed the lower the speed
the better. Now I am reading different?

I haven’t used Nero since 5 so i’m really no help on this Nero tells you this and that sorry.

I see a manufacture ID but Unknown for manufacturer on the TDK DVD-R.
manufacture ID is TTH02.

I was mistaken the first time on read speed. It is 16x on TDK DVD.

So does 24x sound good for CDs and 8x for DVDs?
Can it be set too low? I was burning CDs at 8x thinking
the lower the better.

And why doesn’t WinXP have an option for 24x?
Do I set at 32x or 16x and does software setting
at 24x override this?

What about closing a CD-R mp3? My NTI doesn’t seem to
do so but Nero does.

    thanks!:doh:

Hi Paul, welcome to CDFreaks! :slight_smile:

The built-in CD Recording function in Windows XP will only work on one drive at a time; if you enable it on one drive, it’s automatically disabled on other drives.

I don’t know why some recording speeds like e.g. 24x are not supported, but they aren’t so you’ll just have to live with that if you want to use the built-in CD recording.

You cannot permanently set reading speed with Nero DriveSpeed; speed settings are only temporary for the disc that is currently in the drive, and the speed setting only lasts until another program sets reading speed or until you eject the disc from the drive, whichever comes first.

Depending on the drive, I’d choose 32x or 16x for the recording speed for the built-in CD recording.

The settings used for the built-in CD Recording are completely ignored by other burning programs such as Nero. You can burn in any drive at any speed supported by that drive from within Nero, regardless of which drive is enabled for CD Recording in Explorer and regardless of which recording speed has been set for CD recording.

[QUOTE=nepal76;1942797]I see a manufacture ID but Unknown for manufacturer on the TDK DVD-R.
manufacture ID is TTH02.[/QUOTE]These are not very good archival discs. Mediocre at best.

OK, thanks [B][B]DrageMester[/B]. [/B]Now things are starting to make sense. :bigsmile:

And thanks rolling56 on the disc advice. :cool:

How about closing an mp3 CD-R? Nero will do it but
I don’t see where NTI CD and DVD Maker will?
Is this necessary? I read somewhere they may
be unreadable by some hardware if not closed.

And can you tell me if too low of a speed is not good? :bow:??
I was burning at 8x.

             thanks! :p

[quote=nepal76;1943344]How about closing an mp3 CD-R? Nero will do it but
I don’t see where NTI CD and DVD Maker will?[/QUOTE]I’m not that familiar with NTI (actually I hated it and uninstalled it).

Is this necessary? I read somewhere they may
be unreadable by some hardware if not closed.
Quite possibly. Some hardware may even only read the first session. You’ll just have to test and see what works for you.

And can you tell me if too low of a speed is not good? :bow:??
I was burning at 8x.
For burning CD-R I’ve never experienced bad burns due to low burning speeds, but for modern CD-R media in modern burners, you shouldn’t expect any improvement in quality by burning slower than 16x.

For DVD media, some drives have poor firmware support for the slowest burning speeds (< 6x) and it’s not uncommon to have worse burn quality for 8x/16x DVD media burned at 4x and slower. It depends on the drive and the media.

Thanks, I’ll probably move away from NTI and go for the Full version of Nero.

Last question for now :wink:

My Toshiba Laptop has a DVD write speed of 8x.
Would 4x be too low here when using 16x media?

thanks again!

I now tried my TDK DVD-R 16x on my Toshiba Satellite laptop.
My laptop has an 8x write DVD drive.
It won’t read it. It says windows can’t read the disc.

I dled nero info tool and it says no disc.
Also on the drive tab of nero info tool
there is a section for supported write
features. Is it normal to have all the DVD
write features unchecked?? :rolleyes:

Disregard my lost two posts. I don’t think my Toshiba Satellite M115-S1061
has DVD write capability.

Thanks for all your previous advice!:smiley:

[QUOTE=nepal76;1943824]Disregard my lost two posts. I don’t think my Toshiba Satellite M115-S1061
has DVD write capability.

Thanks for all your previous advice!:D[/QUOTE]I was thinking that way but i never looked up your drive to make sure.