Q6600 Operating temps?

Hi you all! :bow:

Just bought and assembled:


2GB Corsair DDR2 pc6400/800mhz
700x Toughpower Thermaltake 700w PSU
MSI P-35 Platinum MainBoard / Intel Chipset
Intel CoreDuo2 Quad Q6600 CPU (2.4)
Nvidia 8600GT 512MB / DDR2 GPU (Pci-ex16)
CM 690 Coolermaster Mid ATX Chassis (Case)
WINXP (Service Pack2)
Three120mm case fans (I think they are only connected to the PSU)
1)Raptor WD SataII 74 GB for apps and OS Hard drive
2) Western Digital SataII 500 GB Internal hard Drive for Storage


OK.
Now after putting everything together and it seemingly is working well, does anyone have any idea what the average Intel Core Duo2 Quad (Q6600) 2.4CPU Temperature should be running at? I have a MSI (Microstar P-35 Platinum Mobo) that came with DualCoreCenter Utility to monitor temp, system temps and
settings in the Bios.

I went to the BIOS and noticed that the CPU Temp was running at 61 c / 141 f ! That sounds pretty high to me. The System Temp was 29.degrees 0 / 84 f.

The Fan speed was 1775 RPMS. Which one? It did not say,but I do have a front case 120mm,and a rear 120mm fan, and a 120mm side case fan, and they are working.

In Bios, the System Fan #3 and #4 is Disabled. Could that be that my friend hooked up the Fans directly to the Power supply and not split them to the mainboard?

Is there website on Normal operating temperatures for the INTEL Processors?

If anyone has the MSI P-35 Platinum Mainboard, and has installed the DuoCoreCenter utility, How do you change the temp settings for the Fans and the CPU? I’ve seen the DOT Ultily to change the settings,but I did not see it on the Driver/utility CD.

Thanks again! :clap:

Yup thats high. download coretemp and verify that the bios reading is the same:
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/

If it is the same, then chances are that the cpu fan/heatsink is not snapped in on all four corners.

There should be no issue with plugging case fans into the PSU, as long as they are spinning they are ok.

Thanks eric,

Could I download and install this core Temp alongside the MSI Temp CPU software w/o any problems? What is the norm for this Q6600 Qaud CPU?

The FSB is showing at 267 MHZ
The system is a 1333FSB should this be running at 1333 too?

CPU Clock Speed is 2403 MHZ and CPU core temp is 54c / 129 F. So if I have to remove the (stock) heat sink to re-set it again, do I just wipe the adhesive off,or scrape it off with a plastic knife…don’t think metal is good to use,then I don’t know. Thanks

Could I just try snapping the corners in again, without removing the heatsink?

[quote=bozoagain;1969664]Thanks eric,
Could I download and install this core Temp alongside the MSI Temp CPU software w/o any problems? [/quote]
Yes you should have no issues.

[quote=bozoagain;1969664]What is the norm for this Q6600 Qaud CPU?[/quote]Depends on which version of Quad you have and a lot of other factors like case cooling ect.

[B]Edit:[/B] Even for a stock heat sink that is still too high.
FSB for the Q6600 is 1066 not 1333. 1333 FSB is for the xx50 series CPU’s only.:wink:
Check in your bios and turn off any fan controlling software so it lets your CPU fan run at full speed.
Like Eric said just make sure the heatsink is properly seated. No need to remove it again.

Q6600 seems to be Very Hot! What are the normal CPU operating temperatures?

I downloaded CORETEMP (v0.96) software to see what B gwan’on, and it shows that all four Cores are listed,
frequency is 2402.43 MHZ,
Platform is LGA 775,
VID is 1.2375v
and the following temps:

[U]
Tj.Max - 212 F[/U]
Core# O 140 F
CORE #1 138 F
CORE #2 124 F
CORE #3 124 F

The CPU is an INTEL CoreDuo2 Q6600 2.4 Kentsfield Quad

Your system is not overclocked so 140F (60C) is too hot for idle temperature. What is your room temp?

My Q6600 is overclocked to 3000Mhz (333 x 9) and my idle temperature is between 35C-42C (95F - 107F) with room temperature of 20C (68F).

If I fully use my cores (100% CPU usage on all 4 cores), they can go up to 70C (158F), and sometimes a bit more or less depends on my room temp.

Btw, I’m using third party Heat Sink & Fan. Usually they are much better than stock intel HSF.

If you want to re-seat the fan/heatsink you have to remove all the old compound and apply new fresh compound. I reccomend either Arctic silver 5 or Shin Etsu, the later being best. to remove the compound use q-tips and rubbing alcohol to wipe it up. Make sure the surfaces are dry before applying the new compound. There are two techniques to apply compound, the first way is to put a dollop in the center, not a huge dollop smaller than a dime. The other method is to make a line with the compound from one end of the cpu to the other. Other methods produce tiny air gaps which are less effective in cooling. By applying high quality compound the cpu can run 5+ degrees cooler.
http://www.petrastechshop.com/thinma.html

Once the cooler is placed onto the cpu do not lift it up to look at the way it spread out, that will cause air gaps to form and effect the cooling.

Bozo, tell me what core temp says in the field “revision” is it a B3 or a G0?

Also check in the BIOS and find out what the cpu voltage is set at voltage wise, or is it set to auto.

60C sounds normal for a CPU that’s has around 100W thermal heat dispatch.
That’s what mine has roughly.
//Danne

Your right, even though your running an Opteron, lol.

Bozo, there are some way to lower your temps, but that quad core will run on the “hot” side, and its normal, and its fine. You can’t compare you temp with zevia for instance, since he’s running an aftermarket cooler. The fact that he can idle at 42C just shows how hot these quads can be, since an aftermarkt cooler can easily run 10C+ cooler, not to mention he’s using high quality thermal compound.

A quad doesnt idle at 42C, I’d say it impossible without some kind of throttling using aircooling.
//Danne

So you obviously checked to see if the heatsink was seated properly. If you did remove it then you need to follow Erics advice and here is a link that will help. Click (Doesn’t need to be Arctic Siver). Your idle temps should not be anywhere over 35-40 Deg C . Is this PC in the open or is it stuffed in a computer desk with the door closed? If you are idling @ 60 deg then as soon as you load the cpu it will probably throttle. As asked please post a screen shot of your Core temp like this so we can see your revision and VID.

Keep in mind that BIOS --> Full load
It doesnt sound unresonable since my Opteron 185 runs at 60C at ~50% load on each core with pretty much no airflow at all (evil hot core).
//Danne

Hi, after reading alot of posts online, this is the only thread that comes remotely close to providing an answer for me…Sorry if I’m ‘hijacking’ this thread but could anyone tell me if running at 75-80 celcius during transcoding video with Nero is normal? As soon as the transcoding process finishes, the temp drops right down to 35. I haven’t overclocked this, I have 4GB of OCZ ram, an ASUS mobo and a top of the line Thermaltake heatsink/fan. It idles at 35 on average, but I read that ‘under load’ should be around 60…Is transcoding video considered ‘under load’?

Any input would be greatly appriciated,

JayDTA

Jay Welcome to Club CDfreaks :smiley:

Transcoding happens to be one of the few programs that will use probably all four cores to their fullest. So if your using the stock heatsink/fan then your temps are proabably normal.

Two cheap ways to help control heat on a quad core is to upgrade the thermal paste to Shin Etsu or Arctic Silver 5. The other is to under volt the cpu. Undervolting the cpu is when you lower the cpu voltage one step at a time below the stock voltage and make sure the computer is stable by running a program called Prime95.

Another thing to check is to see if the cpu voltage is set to auto, its much better to fix the voltage, otherwise when the cpu is loaded the voltage can shoot up and create a lot more heat.

[QUOTE=eric93se;1970676]Jay Welcome to Club CDfreaks :smiley:

Transcoding happens to be one of the few programs that will use probably all four cores to their fullest. So if your using the stock heatsink/fan then your temps are proabably normal.

Two cheap ways to help control heat on a quad core is to upgrade the thermal paste to Shin Etsu or Arctic Silver 5. The other is to under volt the cpu. Undervolting the cpu is when you lower the cpu voltage one step at a time below the stock voltage and make sure the computer is stable by running a program called Prime95.

Another thing to check is to see if the cpu voltage is set to auto, its much better to fix the voltage, otherwise when the cpu is loaded the voltage can shoot up and create a lot more heat.[/QUOTE]

The heatsink/fan I’m using is a Thermaltake V1, it’s some massive copper looking heatsink with 4 heat pipes and a fan between the 2 heatsinks. It was the most expensive one at my local computer shop, so I’m assuming it’s really good. I also bought a tube of thermal paste…I’m pretty sure it wasn’t any of the 2 you mentioned, but it was about $10, and I applied with with the single thin line from one end of the cpu to the other.

As for under volting the cpu, it’s set on auto and when I check it’s volts with CoreTemp it shows 1.3250v and with CPUz it shows 1.250v, these are the voltages while transcoding with all 4 cores between 70 and 80 celcius.

Could you tell me which decrements I sould use while under volting? Like go from 1.350v to 1.325v then to 1.3v then to 1.275v?? What would you recommend fixing the voltage at? Also, I tried out that Prime95 program, it said it would take somewhere around an hour to complete, is this common? Do I have to wait that long to test every time I knock the voltage down a step?

Thanks alot Eric,

JayDTA

[QUOTE=JayDTA;1971055]

As for under volting the cpu, it’s set on auto and when I check it’s volts with CoreTemp it shows 1.3250v and with CPUz it shows 1.250v, these are the voltages while transcoding with all 4 cores between 70 and 80 celcius.

Could you tell me which decrements I sould use while under volting? Like go from 1.350v to 1.325v then to 1.3v then to 1.275v?? What would you recommend fixing the voltage at? Also, I tried out that Prime95 program, it said it would take somewhere around an hour to complete, is this common? Do I have to wait that long to test every time I knock the voltage down a step?

Thanks alot Eric,

JayDTA[/QUOTE]

Yes under volt it exactly the way you said. But run Prime95 after each decriment to make sure its stable.

When using Prime95, select the first option to test “small ffts” thats going to stress the cpu mostly. You can stop P95 from running at anytime, but to run it for an hour is good to make sure everything is stable. Some people run it overnight to ensure stability.

Core temp is reporting the Vid, which is what the chip is rated at. In CPUz that is the voltage that the bios is setting the chip at. So theres a good chance you could go all the way down to 1.275 or even less and still be stable. I cannot reccomend what voltage to set it at, it all depends on the setup and everyones is different.

make sure you have the latest version of P95 25.5
www.majorgeeks.com/Prime95_d4363.html

If your PC suddenly restarts while running P95, that just means its not stable at that voltage, just go back into the BIOS and go one increment higher, till its stable again.

Bozoagain.

Your system is running way to hot.

The fact that the system temp in bios is showing 29C (which would be about normal) and the cpu is 61C means there may have been some problem installing the HS.

Maybe the HS came with some plastic attached covering the paste and it hasn’t been removed?
Maybe when you applied the paste you didn’t turn the HS a degree left or right to remove any bubbles?
Maybe the HS is not clicked into place properly?

I would check the above. I would take it a step further and remove the HS and clean off any paste using alcohol. The alcohol swipes you get from a chemist are ideal. Then put about a grain of rice size dollop in the middle of the cpu [I]only[/I]. Or if using arctic silver a thin line vertical to the cpu.

If you want to do some more research check out the Maximum PC forums in the overclocking threads for some really good links.

Your system and cpu should be running at about 30-35 max at stock settings. Particularly with your type of HS even at a fairly good overclock of say up to 3.4Mhz the temps should be way less than 61C.

Go into BIOS and reset to optimal. I don’t know why you would have changed any thing in there in the first place??? but [B]Don’t touch the voltage [/B]!!! Until of course you start overclocking; and before that see the above forums who are specialists in it. Here’s a good start for some research.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/240001-29-howto-overclock-quads-duals-guide

Download [I][B]Coretemp BETA [/B][/I]and use that to read your temps and get back to us.