Putting 24bit/48000 audio to DVD

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#1

Hello everyone,
Could somebody please give me an idea how to burn (without any quality loss) 2hrs50min of 24bit/48000 audio flac files to DVD ?
I’m trying to do it using Nero OEM Suite (Nero Express 6.6 & Nerovision Express 3) but when I try and load the files in for burning it won’t accept them (I read that Nero can do it, maybe my version doesn’t have the required function ? - what should it be called ?)
I’d also appreciate any advice on which “free” programs would be the best for burning these 24bit/48000 flac files to DVD ?
Thanks in advance for any help !
Cheers


#2

try imgburn in build mode.


#3

Thanks for the advice, it seemed to burn OK but something didn’t work.

OK, when I try to play 04bit/48000 files with Nero Media Player on my computer it says “can’t open output audio device!”.
If I try to open the 24bit/48000 files with GoldWave it says “Could not read audio data”.
So as my computer will not play 24bit/48000 files unless I convert them to 16bit/44.1 does that mean it can not burn the 24bit/48000 files onto a DVD ?

Using ImgBurn in “build” mode I selected “write files / folders to disc” and I burned a disc of 24/48000 FLAC’s to a Verbatim DVD-R (I also did a separate burn using 24/48000 WAVE’s instead of FLAC’s).

When I press play on my DVD player both discs say “noPLAY”.
On my TV screen it says “this type of disc cannot be played”.

I don’t think the problem is my DVD player because the info I have on it says:
Video DAC: 54 MHz/10-bit
Audio DAC: 192 kHz/24-bit
Here’s some more info on my DVD player:
http://www.mediacollege.com/equipment/panasonic/dvd/dvds27.html

So I’m pretty sure it should be able to play 24bit/48000 DVD’s?
(bye the way how do I tell if this machine can play FLAC’s?, I know it definately plays normal “PCM WAVE” audio CD-R’s).

Is there another method I could try to burn with instead of using ImgBurn in “build” mode and selecting “write files / folders to disc” ?

Thanks


#4

OK, I don’t think this is a problem related to burning 24bit/48000 audio to a DVD, but when I try to play 24bit/48000 files with Nero Media Player on my computer it says “can’t open output audio device!”.
If I try to open the 24bit/48000 files with GoldWave it says “Could not read audio data”.
However if I open the 24bit/48000 files with Adobe Audition 1.5 they play fine.


#5

Plays DVD-Video, DVD-R, DVD-RAM, CD-R, CD-RW, JPEG, and MP3/WMA CDs

from the link you provided your dvd player does not support FLAC or WAV. but MP3 and WMA on CD.

try playing the files with VLC or Media Player Classic. here is a thread titled “What is the best media player?”. most of them are freeware.
http://club.cdfreaks.com/f3/what-best-media-player-193735/


#6

[QUOTE=troy512;2140113]from the link you provided your dvd player does not support FLAC or WAV. but MP3 and WMA on CD.

try playing the files with VLC or Media Player Classic. here is a thread titled “What is the best media player?”. most of them are freeware.
http://club.cdfreaks.com/f3/what-best-media-player-193735/[/QUOTE]

I have made more CD’s than I can count from WAVE’s which play on my DVD player !, so that can’t be the problem.


#7

did you make audio cd’s or data cd’s?

do you have the original manual which came with the dvd player?

here is what 13 other Panasonic DVD-S27 user had to say:
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers/panasonic-s27/4263

did you find a media player [other than adobe] to play the 24bit/48000 files?


#8

[QUOTE=troy512;2140338]did you make audio cd’s or data cd’s?

do you have the original manual which came with the dvd player?

here is what 13 other Panasonic DVD-S27 user had to say:
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers/panasonic-s27/4263

did you find a media player [other than adobe] to play the 24bit/48000 files?[/QUOTE]

You can actually see the manual here:
http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPERMANPDF/DVDS27.PDF

EDIT - OK I’ve read the DVD player won’t play “DVD-Audio”, but it will play “DVD-Video”.
So as the info says:
Video DAC: 54 MHz/10-bit
Audio DAC: 192 kHz/24-bit
Will that allow me to play 24bit/48000 DVD-Video ? (just the audio burned to a DVD ?)

Yep, Audio CD’s made from FLACS and WAVE have always played fine, no problems.
I just tried burning a “data CD” for the first time ever, I loaded a couple of 16bit/44.1 FLAC files off my hard drive and burned to a CD-R with Nero using “make data CD”.
When I pressed play on my CD/DVD player it said “noPLAY” (but it works in my computer in the drive I burned it with).

About the link you provided, I know the Panasonic DVD-S27 is not a top of the range player, but the fact is (unless I’m wrong) is that it is supposed to be able to play 24bit/48 audio DVD’s ? (please correct me if I’m wrong, I’m sure you understand more about the machine info than I do !)
I should add that I’m having the exact same problem with a better player “Panasonic SA-HT880W” player.

I’m not sure if this is of any significance to this problem, but the following might tell you something… ?
As I already posted and said previously, when I try to play 24bit/48000 files (which are on my hard drive) with Nero Media Player on my computer it says “can’t open output audio device!”.
If I try to open the 24bit/48000 files with GoldWave it says “Could not read audio data”.
(However if I open the 24bit/48000 files with Adobe Audition 1.5 they play fine - maybe Adobe Audition is automatically opening them as 16bit when it does this ?).
But I have found that once I had burned a DVD using the 24/48 files on my hard drive using Nero “make data DVD”, I then put the DVD into the drive I burned it in and tried to play it.
It seemed to read the disc properly, as the flacs I burned appear on the disc, but when I try to open them off the disc (for example with Nero Media Player), I get the exact same message as when I try to open them off my hard drive eg. “can’t open output audio device!”.
Could this mean my computer doesn’t have a 24bit sound card ?
And would this mean it can’t burn the files correctly to DVD, which is why it’s not working in my DVD player ?
I don’t know how to check the details on my soundcard, but I’ll try ?


#9

Actually an easy way to solve the problem might be if someone could please recommend to me the best “free” program they know for burning DVD-Video 24bit/48000 (audio only).


#10

best way to put flac/wav on cd/dvd

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[li]imgburn build mode
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when trying to play a data cd/dvd containing flac files, is the same as having them on the hard drive, just a different source

[ul]
[li]you need to find a good media player try VLC
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your dvd player [B][U]will not[/U][/B] play flac/wav cd/dvd

[ul]
[li]Plays DVD-Video, DVD-R, DVD-RAM, CD-R, CD-RW, JPEG, and MP3/WMA CDs
[/li][/ul]

“[I]I have made more CD’s than I can count from WAVE’s which play on my DVD player[/I]”

[ul]
[li]yes, but you converted to cdda, audio cd, not flac/wav
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“[I]please recommend to me the best “free” program they know for burning DVD-Video 24bit/48000 (audio only)[/I]”

[ul]
[li]seems your dvd player does not support the playing of DVD-Audio, this is a seperate format from DVD-Video. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Audio
[/li][/ul]

[ul]
[li]but just for the heck of it you can try it if you like, the web site says it will play in any dvd player. http://www.audio-dvd-creator.com/
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also here is the official FLAC website http://flac.sourceforge.net/index.html

the best thing to do know i guess is to just burn Audio-CD’s


#11

Try first by creating a CUE file of your flacs…Use write mode as per this guide…

However as stated your player will not play flac files…


#12

Thanks guys.

I’ve actually got audio on a lot of double & triple disc CD sets, which would be much easier for quite a few reasons to have on just the one DVD disc, so for that and other reasons I’m actually going to buy a new CD/DVD player (of course which will play DVD-Audio!).

So you think it’s best I burn the DVD-Audio to DVD using ImgBurn (in build mode) ?
I’ve only recently installed ImgBurn, so all the setting would be at their defaults, is this OK, I don’t need to change anything?, just open “write files / folders to disc” and burn ?, there’s nothing else I have to create ?

How would burning with Nero in “make data disc” mode compare ?
I’ve always used Nero (Express 6.6 and Nerovision 3) for normal CD’s / DVD’s and never had a problem…

Thanks for the help guys, I’m looking forward to hearing this 24bit stuff I’ve got.


#13

sorry if this may have confused you.

burning ner0 in data disc and ImgBurn in build mode simply puts the flac/wav files to the disc. you will not have a dvd-audio disc, just a disc with flac/wav files.

to play the resulting dvd you will need a player capable of playing 24bit/48000 flac files.

the Audio DVD Creator i linked, is affiliated with Fengtao Sofware. Fengtao software is good company with a great dvd program called DVDFab. now fengtao does not make Audio DVD Creator but does have links for downloading on his http://www.dvdidle.com/ site.

so for me having fengtao affiliated with Audio DVD Creator, tells me Audio DVD Creator is a good program. the web site says there is a trial. i would recommend at least trying it to see if you like it. after all its only $40. and any decent dvd player will cost more.

if you want to look into flac hardware, here is what the developers recommend.
http://flac.sourceforge.net/links.html#hardware

you really should do some reading over at the flac site ( http://flac.sourceforge.net/index.html ) you will probably learn something. i know i am lost when it comes to video / audio codecs. :slight_smile:


#14

Thanks for all the advice !
I have burned a DVD-Audio disc from 24bit/48000 FLAC’s and successfully got it to play on a DVD-AUDIO player.
Everything seems fine except I’m hearing tiny fraction of a second silent gaps between each song / track ?
Does anyone know about this program and the little silent gaps ?
It’s seems quite a good program, I’m surprised to hear these annoying little gaps (it’s very obvious when listening to live music).

I went to the Wikipedia “DVD-Audio” page.

And went to this page linked from the DVD-Audio Wikipedia page (2nd under Windows named “Cirlinca DVD-Audio Solo”).
http://www.cirlinca.com/

And clicked on “free trials” and selected this version.
Named DVD-Audio Solo Plus Edition v1.6
http://www.cirlinca.com/download.htm


#15

I read that apaprently there is a way to avoid these little gaps…


#16

OK problem solved, thanks everyone for all their help.

This seems like a very decent program for anyone who wants to make DVD-Audio, especially straight from FLAC, this basically does it all in 3-4 simple 1 click steps, most other programs I tried yesterday over a day of experimenting didn’t work with FLAC.
DVD-Audio Solo Plus Edition v1.6
http://www.cirlinca.com/download.htm

IF YOU DO NOT WANT GAPS BETWEEN TRACKS :
Optimize for gapless inter-track – Check this option if you want gapless transitions between tracks. Please be advised that there will be a gap every 20 still pictures when the DVD-Audio player pre-loads the still pictures. If you do not want any gaps at all, turn off Still Pictures, see Still Pictures Configuration.


#17

alright, glad you have it figured out now. :clap:

what dvd player did you get? and where did you get it? :slight_smile:


#18

Well, you wouldn’t believe…
I finally found the program that fantastically makes DVD-Audio discs and successfully played it on my parents DVD Player which plays DVD-Audio (purchased a few years ago).
So I went around to all the main name franchise electronic stores in the eastern suburbs of the city I live in (about 8 stores), Melbourne, Australia, only to be told by all of them they haven’t stocked anything that plays DVD-Audio for quite some time…
I then called the big stores in the city and only 1 store had a single (and very cheap player which could play DVD-Audio).
It’s been treated basically as a discontinued type of format !!!

Which has made me wonder, if I do convert all my double and triple CD sets to DVD-Audio, am I going to find myself in the future not being able to purchase a player to play them on… ?
Maybe I will be better afterall to burn all this stuff to DVD-Video instead ? (and unfortunetly have to take the time to first convert the 16bit/44.1 stuff so it can play as DVD-Video.

I was really prepared to spend big $$$ on a DVD-Audio player / recorder today, I can’t believe everybody said they basically don’t sell them anymore !

If only DVD players would play the FLAC DVD’s…


#19

I’m going to check out and consider buying this ZIOVA Clearstreamâ„¢ CS505, I found out a store 10 minutes from my house is selling them.
It plays basically everything I need, including FLAC !
http://www.a1audio.net.au/newproducts.htm#Cambidge